Re: join think tank: sociological effects of technology

Since Einstein's stated objective for his many threads is to recruit people, I thought the forum would tolerate me recruiting people for a think tank dealing with sociological effects of technology.

Discuss the how to's in setting up / joining such a think tank.

Re: join think tank: sociological effects of technology

Maybe you should provide an example of what the fudge you want to talk about.

Like what?

Example of a better alternative?

You were just ranting about syringes. You advocated the use of more expensive syringes to protect people in uncivilized areas from misuse. Obviously, more expensive syringes = less syringes = people die. What you advocated on this topic in that thread would kill a lot of people. A fine example of the level of thought you've put into this subject.

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Re: join think tank: sociological effects of technology

Firstly, any Think Tank should never be setup in a recruitment-style organisation. Any and every successful Think Tank that I am aware of has been either setup using invites only (ie. inviting leaders in certain fields to work on a certain problem) or by application, but even then the major players are often invited with their assistants being hired...

Also, what you are proposing with the question "dealing with sociological effects of technology" is not a Think Tank style question, but more of a research style question. If that is really what you want, it sounds like you want people to do the dirty work of research...a Think Tank style setup has an outcome in mind, and then you have everyone work together presenting different ideas to achieve that outcome (which your question is not).

I give your invention the worst score imaginable. An A minus MINUS!
~Wornstrum~

Re: join think tank: sociological effects of technology

Judging from his posts in his thread about syringes, his goal is to keep things from the poor (they might misuse them!) and kill them.

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5 (edited by xeno syndicated 01-Apr-2012 16:46:37)

Re: join think tank: sociological effects of technology

"Maybe you should provide an example of what the fudge you want to talk about."

Well, an example would be the sociological effects of the plastic syringe as the sort topics we'd discuss / researched, and an example of the end result of our discussions and research would be coming out with the recommendation to the WHO and aid organizations for campaigns of exchanging of plastic syringes for glass syringes in underdeveloped regions.

"Think Tank should never be setup in a recruitment-style organisation"

I don't know about this.  I would rather it be inclusive rather than exclusive.

"Think Tank style setup has an outcome in mind"

Good point.  I think it would be a think tank because the outcome would be to decrease the negative sociological effects and increase the positive sociological effects of the use of products / technology.

Thanks for your contributions, V. Kemp, Wornstrum.  I think this tink tank is getting off to a great start.

6 (edited by V.Kemp 01-Apr-2012 19:02:56)

Re: join think tank: sociological effects of technology

"Well, an example would be the sociological effects of the plastic syringe as the sort topics we'd discuss / researched, and an example of the end result of our discussions and research would be coming out with the recommendation to the WHO and aid organizations for campaigns of exchanging of plastic syringes for glass syringes in underdeveloped regions."

What about the fact that these syringes would be more expensive and aid organizations would be able to provide less of them to 3rd world nations, resulting in an even more serious lack of them?

What evidence do you have that glass syringes would be better cleaned before reuse? You've argued that glass syringes _can be_ more easily cleaned; but is there evidence that they _will be_ at a higher rate?

What evidence do you have that improper reuse is hurting more people than a lack of syringes caused by using more expensive syringes would cause?

You (and I) can't know if glass syringes would be better for those people unless you have conclusive evidence of these things.

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7 (edited by ~Wornstrum~ 03-Apr-2012 08:18:01)

Re: join think tank: sociological effects of technology

@ Kemp

These are excellent questions.  You are right.  We don't know for sure ye.  So far, all we have discovered is that there is good reason to suspect that the use of re-usable glass syringes rather than one-time-use plastic syringes would diminish the spread of commutable diseases, because, currently, people are attempting to re-use the one-time-use plastic syringes.

We're getting ahead of ourselves.  We have to come up with a name for the think tank.  I suggest: ""International Sociological Effects of Technology Foundation"  I googled it, and it doesn't exist yet, so... who will make the website?  [no advertising]

Re: join think tank: sociological effects of technology

Ok, Flint's "recruitment" is to actually persuade people into changing their political opinions. When he has advertised for donations, the posts are editted to exclude this information. This has now crossed over into advertising for outside of IC, and as such, is now closed...

I give your invention the worst score imaginable. An A minus MINUS!
~Wornstrum~