I am not trolling, but I would like to know how you win a war against political ideals? I guess you could kill all the North Vietnamese (which the total dead in Vietnam was almost 10% of the total population), and I do not disagree that the US withdrawl was from the lack of public support back home, but I also would also go as far as to say that they weren't winning the war either.

When the tactics of the US was to designate large areas of Vietnam as free fire zones (meaning any killing of civilians went unquestioned), the public support in Vietnam is easily shifted from supporting US assistance to opposing their tactics which forces the shift (do you support the people coming into Vietnam killing civilians, which the assisting forces did? or do you support the people fighting them?). I think victory itself in Vietnam would have been difficult, not impossible, but certainly wouldn't have been swift.

The Vietnam War did have some successful battles, but not exactly planned, but the Battle of Long Tan was certainly well executed.

One I would add to the list is the Kakoda Trail. The operation to stop the Japanese advance in WW2 (and from what I hear, was actually the first time in WW2 the Japanese forces were actually stopped).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi4s8cjLFI

ps He's right

V.kemp

Biden might be bad, but remmember the alernative was palin lol easy choice althou neither is desireable

Lol u must be kidding me about Palin tho.. she would have been a loose cannon on deck and would honestly make a mockery of the administration

I think people are getting the idea of the Vietnam war wrong as well. This was not an invasion of North Vietnam to conquer them. It was a defense of South Vietnam to protect them. The US had achieved that and was actually making a push to switch their ideal in the war to conquering North Vietnam up until the point where politics back stateside became and issue and the troops were called out. The North Vietnamese only strategy in that war was to throw as many numbers as they could at opposing forces and hope for victory. That is not some sort of brilliant strategy that is just using sheer odds in your favor (which they still did not have).

If the US was to use that tactic in any war current day and lose the ratio of troops that North Vietnam did, the entire political panel would be crucified. Why? Because it is horrible ideology and the American public while preferring not to see so many deaths on the enemy side would NEVER stand for massive casualties on its own side.