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Orion u are completely missing the point....

If you look at all the empires that did nothing (1250 nw) you find the inactives.

Then you check if they had market transactions that are suspicious, and if they do, check their IPs. Thats about what u can do.

If u want to dig deeper, then u can check the big families, analyze their news and see who aided out more than they should during the first few ticks.  Its not hard, but ofc its alil hard when u only hire lazy mods!! (not u Primo)

And Orion, i dont have any problem accepting that others can boost past us early, especially thoose that got free endu. But you need to realize that theese people that sell endu are doing it to boost someone else, and its these guys you want to catch. The people that got the endu might be random, but the people that got marketaided free cash and iron are the real crooks, and they are easy to catch.

LORD HELP OREGON

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Noir, u forget ur one of the worst cheaters ever, well used to be. but still...you are right about the free cash/iron shit.

im glad i can say my fam did nothing except hard work smile

178 (edited by 0rion 19-Mar-2012 10:53:34)

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Lol, im missing the point, yet you suggest the same for mods to do? Doesnt make sense but w/e

@lee; same here tongue

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I got 2 strange guys in my fam both times went to mod to report them. I still have a guy now neverland, newly registered account, says he wanted to break with his bad history.
Says he had bad experiances with family so he will SS, and that he will try out an endurium strat. So i got to mod but nobody answers me. Its no problem for me you know, i'm just trying to help.

Just pointing out, that its gotten to a point where you can't trust any randoms, and that sucks. I say make rogue tag where not only you can't attack or opp, but where you can do no market transactions aswell!

~Rebirth~

180 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 20-Mar-2012 04:07:03)

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> Lee wrote:

> yeh its stupid, i mean in the past 24hrs over 6k endo has been sold, theres no noobs left in the game only leaves all these multis that are in every other fam at every round start.

> i got one in my fam aswell, he logged in at start, sold all his shit on market and logged off!!!! its a [blam] joke and there isnt enough being done about it.

just to reinform i was the one the 1st complained!!! big_smile

this guy deleted from my fam after selling all his shit on market, it does need a fix. disable market for 48hrs at starts, and its done.

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I sence a new brand of IC players are comming the ICI "Imperial conflict investigators" I vote for noir smile

Like the internal affairs of IC, cause who is checking on the mods? lol

~Rebirth~

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yea they are the worst yikes

playing same galaxys like normal players and still having all those mod powers to their advantage

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Id love to be investigator tongue mostly cause id catch these guys in 15 minutes.

And lee, the pot and the kettle etc etc, ive no problem admiting that i did beyond shady stuff back in the days, althou with a mod in my family i think you have pretty good indications i am clean wink (because mods NEVER cheat, nai opti, torqez, KB, NEVER!!)

Noir for investigator!!!

LORD HELP OREGON

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"Then you check if they had market transactions that are suspicious, and if they do, check their IPs. Thats about what u can do."

IP's can easily be changed (and not only by using a VPN, but also often by resetting a router to obtain a new IP from the pool). All this does is forces players into doing something that cannot be traced and the situation remains the same. The market staying closed for 48 hours might be a fix...but that also makes the start harder/slower but at least give fams a more even start (not based on who gets their endo bid in first, for example).

I give your invention the worst score imaginable. An A minus MINUS!
~Wornstrum~

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Wornstrum, for the future closed market might be better, but as for now we need to catch the bad guys that allready did cheat.

LORD HELP OREGON

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You seem to know alot about it wornstrum ... where were you 2 days ago between 22.00 GMT and 01.00 GMT?

~Rebirth~

187 (edited by 0rion 19-Mar-2012 11:29:55)

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Since there was so much endu sold.. Maybe a mod 'mod aided' himself cuz he needed some cash? Haha big_smile imagine that.

Anyways.. Go catch the bad guys X( ;p

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I'll investigate this shit...

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I would say Multi's are the worst form of cheating in this game. We are cracking down hard on them over the past months, but it's not an easy task. I can't give details on how we do it, or it would be easier to circumvent the process, but we are catching them. If you're not happy with how it's done, maybe we trim our requirements for a "multi" down to the most simplest evidence and then we start blocking from there? I just don't want to hear any bitching when all of a sudden 50% of IC is blocked for multi's because of "suspiscious" behavior.

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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that would be fun tongue

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Lee putting a bid for 600 endu? Thats suss there. That amount of gc loss for 'usually' minimal returns of endu rings bells to me tongue

I mean, how often in other rounds has there been more than a few hundred endu sold at all? (I seriously dont know tongue) Throwing 30k down off the bat for some endu seems excessive to me. After all, without the iron there isnt much you can do short term with it to make it profitable.

Also top 7 fams are cheating? lol.... ok then!

Finally, someone wanting to break away from their bad history sounds suss also. Considering you can hide it if youre so worried about it.

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I once prayed to god for some planets, but quickly found out he didnt work that way

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Noir
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Id love to be investigator  mostly cause id catch these guys in 15 minutes.

" And lee, the pot and the kettle etc etc, ive no problem admiting that i did beyond shady stuff back in the days, althou with a mod in my family i think you have pretty good indications i am clean  (because mods NEVER cheat, nai opti, torqez, KB, NEVER!!)

Noir for investigator!!!  "




you cant catch multis if they delete/rejoin after market aid. and Noir we know not all of mods can see multis even if they are in the same fam.

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ya lol

but broker the delete/rejoiners will laregely have joined two times, thus they cannot delete again, and we can still catch them.

besides, we are not only after the multies, but the main accounts aswell, and they are not deleted!

LORD HELP OREGON

194 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 20-Mar-2012 04:06:30)

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> Poley wrote:

> Lee putting a bid for 600 endu? Thats suss there. That amount of gc loss for 'usually' minimal returns of endu rings bells to me tongue

> I mean, how often in other rounds has there been more than a few hundred endu sold at all? (I seriously dont know tongue) Throwing 30k down off the bat for some endu seems excessive to me. After all, without the iron there isnt much you can do short term with it to make it profitable.


[16:45] <lee> Flashy
[16:45] <lee> shall i buy 500 or 400 endo
[16:45] <lee> prob 500
[16:45] <lee> hmm maybe il buy 1k
[16:45] <lee> oO
[16:45] <&TheFuzz> lol
[16:45] <&TheFuzz> i dno
[16:45] <&TheFuzz> 700 maybe
[16:46] <&Flashy> err
[16:46] <&Flashy> i'd say around 800 endu

[17:00] <&lee> [blam] lag
[17:00] <&lee> what a joke
[17:00] <&lee> Image endurium     50.00 gc     600    
[17:00] <&lee> GJ im pr0

[17:06] <&lee> Week 1, 0    Market update
[17:06] <&lee> You have bought 245 endurium on the market.
[17:06] <&lee> Week 1, 0    Market update
[17:06] <&lee> You have bought 245 endurium on the market.
[17:06] <&lee> win
[17:06] <&lee> there multis they are
[17:07] <&lee> 100%
[17:07] <&lee> mods dont do enough for this shit


SO dont accusse me of being suss just cus i made a bid for endo, and that it came through. i was just lucky to be so fast to be 1st in the que.

how dare you.........


this was 2nd day when i made another bid for endo:

[12:35] <lee> no ones selling endo :s
[12:43] <lee> wait i take that back
[12:43] <lee> Week 20, 0    Market update
[12:43] <lee> You have bought 500 endurium on the market.
[12:44] <lee> someones cheatin man i know it
[12:44] <lee> a 1.3k bid went on top of my 600
[12:44] <lee> and someone just sells 2k endo like its nothing
[12:44] <lee> suspect

guess im cheating for that too? noob!

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haha tick 20 is same tick I put up a endo bid for 300 as well and I was shocked to see it come in so soon yikes

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So selling to yourself proves u are not a cheater? Think u have it backwards lol..

besides im not accusing anyone, im just saying that theres someone out there thats guilty tongue

LORD HELP OREGON

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who keeps records of their chats from days ago wink

I Dont Care About Spots on My Apples, Just Leave Me the Birds and the Bees

198 (edited by Lee 19-Mar-2012 13:23:51)

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who said i sold to myself? i think ur the one that has it backwards Noir. Ur backwards, Noir.

my logs humanity go all the way back until 2006 wanna check those too?

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Lee to prove that u bought 600 endu only makes u more suspicious, if anything it gives more indication that ur guilty than the other way around, so i have no idea why u posted thoose logs.

LORD HELP OREGON

200 (edited by [Lemming] HuMaNiTy 19-Mar-2012 13:27:42)

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send it too the imperial police, they are after us yikes

I Dont Care About Spots on My Apples, Just Leave Me the Birds and the Bees