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Re: Voter ID

Recently Dpenguins asked "Do you support voter ID laws" to me.

My answer was short and direct "Yes" and I elaborated only in a minor way. Allow me to take a time to explain why I believe it is NOT racist, is not a handicap to people voting, or anything else nefarious.



ID is REQUIRED for the following:


Driving
Boarding an Airplane
Doctors Office Visit
When Applying for a Job
Pharmacy
Bank Transactions
Applying to School
Applying for Credit Score
Purchasing a Car
Registering a Car
Medicare/Medicaid
Open a Retirement Account
Vote in a Union
Donate Blood
Buy a Firearm
Social Security Services
Pawn Shops
Buying Train Tickets
Buying Bus Tickets
Volunteers in Non-Profit Orgs.
Check out a Book at a Library
Buy a House
Apartment Rental Application
Buying Alcohol
Buying Cigarettes
Drug Counseling Programs
Piss Tests
Using a Credit Card
Applying for Store Credit Card
Getting a Cellular Phone




That list is far from complete. Don't ask me for extra items, use your own brain. If all that requires ID, then the final line I told Dpenguins applies:

You cannot operate in society without ID anymore.

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Re: Voter ID

i think arby3 asked you that not me. i completely agree with voter id tongue

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjjO_lhf9c

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Re: Voter ID

I love the discrimination claim.

The obvious argument for IDs is to protect the integrity of our voting system, which is, literally, paramount to our system of government.

This is hard to dispute. Integrity is good. Identification is common-sense. So, clearly, objections must be measured on the evidence backing their claims. What concerns override this measure to improve integrity? What evidence backs these concerns?

The argument against IDs is that this discriminates against minorities. Asked for the mechanic by which requiring IDs discriminates against minorities, I've watched literally dozens of talking heads make stupid faces and talk about red herrings.

What really offends me about the racist claim is that those objecting to ID laws are implying that minorities are too stupid to show up, verify their identity, and pick up a free ID once _every few years_. The vast majority of minorities (like everybody else) already have IDs. You can't drive or buy alcohol or do plenty of other things without one. Requiring IDs from everyone does not discriminate against minorities. To claim that it does discriminates against minorities and is racist.

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