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NOOOOO
they ruined soldiers...
they are now unusable, everyone may aswell put droids in there race and use them
Revalons is nerfd becuase of this change too as no droids in that race, same for some others.
Put soldier defense to 8 and they have a purpose, if not then they are NOT VIABLE
rest of the changes r cool tho well done.
yes they do and if you cant think of it, then gtfo out of my fam!
> Noir wrote:
> yes they do and if you cant think of it, then gtfo out of my fam!
Give this man tag points allready 
And actually, we played IC with droids 6/7 and sols 5/5 for so many years, and it worked. Now sols have even better defense than that, and they're useless? next whine, please !
They're cheaper (especially due to them not having iron costs) and it's only 1 attack/defense point.
Only problem I'm seeing is that attackers will start using droids exclusively.
One of the fun parts of attacking was that you could completely wreck another attacker's ground if he had no sols, because droids sucked that badly in defending. It's like a strategic game of what droid:sol ratio to make. Now that is all gone, due to soldiers, NW for NW, are just inferior to droids.
Also I fair that, as Lee said, this change hurts preset races that do not have access to droids a bit too hard. It may just be that little bit easier for attackers to run through a banker's ground than it has been in the past, to make these preset races sitting ducks, unless they are willing to pay a shitton of upkeep to maintain huge soldier counts.
Well I say make it 4/7 for soldiers and droids 7/5
That would have been better in my point of view, but dont be a bitch about it. They did a good job with recent changes, only the fact droids have less attack than defence is amazingly gay. I mean.. Droid = War machine 
> Noir wrote:
> yes they do and if you cant think of it, then gtfo out of my fam!
ahhhhh shyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
> RisingDown wrote:
> It may just be that little bit easier for attackers to run through a banker's ground than it has been in the past, to make these preset races sitting ducks, unless they are willing to pay a shitton of upkeep to maintain huge soldier counts.
Droids had attack 7 before, now its 6.
Soldiers had defence 7 before, now its 6.
Bankers defences are exactly the same as before.
The only thing that has changed (relatively) is droid defence is better and soldier attack is better. Anyone who is running around claiming soldiers are useless for defence now isn't considering the drop in attack of droids to compensate. They are exactly as good as before.
oh sorry I misread, then the droid:sol ratio should still be similar I guess.
One difference though is the fact that attackers will only be building droids now.
Say they had 25/75 soldier/droid ratio before. Now they will have 100% droids. So if they have an equal number of ground to before, they will have more droids so overall their attack strength will be stronger.
So I guess you could argue that its a bit of a hit on races without droids for defence.
noooot cooool
Uhmm...
Droid: 6/7
Soldier 5/6
Ya Droid is machine of War.
so
Droid: 8/5 Soldier 5/6
Ya if banker want more defense He need more bonus military.... hahahaha
Ya because banker only is food each round.
ffs Aleph how can anyone keep up with your gibberish X(
with military bonus when an attacker was stationning solds, bankers had to send like 8 times the amount of soldiers to retake the planet, which was really risky for his fleet.
Now bankers will have the possibility to participate to raids, do retakes and even take some portalled shares.
Pax will be able to take themselves the plts they CPFF
Attackers will be tempted to send all their droids on attacks, that means that a banker can remove his portal when his fleet is out.
Droids attack and defend a bit better that soldiers, if bankers want them they will have to pay 20pts for it, but if they dont want to pay for it, building a bit more solds will have the same defense.
Give a try to the new stats and you will see that it opens lot of new possibiities in the gameplay
5. Soldiers and Droids changed statistics
=> Due to multiple comments about the weak attacking statistics of the soldier we have decided to change the statistics after SD ends. Statisticswill be:
Droid: 6/7 Soldier 5/6
where are those comments?? who pulled those comments?? are that people signinficant enough to represent the whole community?? or are they just a few that suddenly convince mods to make such a drastical change??
who's in favour of this changes?? have the community been asked about this changes??? NO, do you remember what a poll is?????? something you where asking in HQ inquiry just to have an opinion of what to do.
NO, the mod team has become a "MY WILL" team, when in most of cases they have no idea how the game is played.
The ONLY real problem wiht soldiers was attacking soldier vs soldier IT WAS BUGGED. If you havent still fix that BUG then no matter how you change the ratios, it will be the same, nope, it will be WORST, because now droids are better defenders now. So before this change I wasn't able to break thru a banker portal attacking with soldiers because sold vs sold was BUGGED, but I was able to break thru attackers' portals and beat the droids.
Right now I cannot break thru any of them, so my 'attacking' soldiers are completely SHIT.
cheers
Fine! I am attacker and I like droids have more power of attack and defense.
If average guy playing as banker never attack or do retakes... How saying here what banker will to capture one portal FF or Sabotead or doing retakes... only vet players doing it and much times it fail.
Bankers mainly playing doing cash... so later They dont like do more things.... except if is vet player and He have time for to play active.
Kollop.. participate in raids make no sense Since you'll instantly go into pmode.. So if you have like 2-3 attackers you dont need help to raid 
The only thing wrong here is making soldiers 5/6 instead of 5/5 X(
If bankers want more defence, they should take droids in race. Its a tradeoff between more safety and more income, cant have the best of both worlds.
O and only noob attackers built soldiers(old) they were a useless waste of gc and NW for attackers.
what was the ratio before the change? i thought they were just the inverse of each other?
Don't like it. It's basically a revert to what was there originally.
The whole point was to have specialised units, so that people can choose how they want to play. An attacker could go defensively, or play more offensively. Similarly a banker was not meant to be able to attack. If they wanted to help attack, then they were to take droids at the expense of something else. That way pure bankers would make more, but lose the ability to retake etc.
Before the initial change, when they were almost equal....what ended up happening was a trade off for iron. Essentially in big wars, even attackers would not build droids, for the sake of building more figs and having air superiority.
I remember fighting a war, where I was the main ground guy with 40million soldiers and no droids. This enabled our attacker to have more figs and dominate the air.
This isn't really a change. It's a revert.
Oh and good job on the changes. Least things are being tried and implemented!
I like all the changes but this one
Droid: 6/7
Soldier 5/6
ummmmmm, you guys are saying that bankers now have a disadvantage over attackers?
but the defence of sols is the same as the attack of droids.
Bankers, unless forced to, wont be attacking attackers anyway, and if they do, their soldiers are now even more powerful.
so realistacally this is actually ok
Looks like increased flexibility/utility for bankers and droidless resourcers to me
I hate this change.
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