i made a joke about terrorist bombings

but it's Timmyville who threatens to overthrow the Constituiton

Get that straight DHS

"Name a nation in the world.
People in that nation want to go to America."

So? Name any developed nation in the world and someone will want to go there, not for the culture, not necessarily for the freedom, but more for the economic opportunities. This is mere speculation at the moment, and unless you can find polls/statistics to back this up, that is all it will ever remain. Also if you consider the economic aspects, people will go to the closest and easiest country to immigrate to, so even if the US has stricter controls on immigration, it to would dissuade people from wanting to immigrate to and would look for a closer and easier destination.

"Just because we limit migration, and some seek Migrants of certain sorts (Quatar seeking low cost laborers for instance) does not mean those nations are more desired."

So we need to find the number of immigration requests received and denied by every individual country?

"As for Statistics hundreds of studies back my claim. As I am driving in snow covered areas I cannot go link browsing for you, but look at polls."

Please, enlighten me...I gave you figures, pointed towards reasoning for immigration, your point is "America is the greatest and everyone wants to come because it says so in...." *waits for the rest*.

"As for the Agitprop the Chinese people who go online know official news is agitprop, and since most go online...."

At the end of 2010, the number of Internet users reached 457 million, out of a population of ~1.3 - 1.4 million, would be counter-indicative to the "most go online" (1 quarter go online). From there, over half that use the Internet do so for the mobile usage (seriously, social networking is just as much of a fan here as it is elsewhere) (http://www.chinatechnews.com/2011/01/24/13006-chinese-netizen-number-reached-457-million-in-2010). Now, I use the Internet in China, and unless I get some special form of Internet (I do not), online media is not seen as agitprop, nor is online media used to push the political policies of the CCP. The news in China does not push political agenda's (they seriously report the news), and I do not see any political propaganda ANYWHERE in China (I have travelled a bit through the countryside). So, care to back up this claim? I know where and how they teach Chinese citizens about Marxist ideals, and it is actually taught in a much more objective environment and an age where people have more freedom to think (but seriously, continuing to use "agitprop" to describe the political environment in China is wrong, as mentioned in my first post, but yet you continue to apply it to the Chinese case and use baseless comments to prove it...you have yet to disprove my original post that agitprop doesn't exist in China, and furthermore that a pledge is propaganda).

"They know the agitprop is severe, as is censorship and crackdowns."

Censorship and crackdowns are not agitprop. As defined in my last post, it is propaganda carrying communist values, which censorship and crackdowns are not...

"Similar is USSR they knew, but never said. When it broke up they all talked of it."

A Russian word used to describe political information used in an art-form like dance, music, etc...and they talked about it? Well done Flint, you take one side in the Cold War and say "see, they had propaganda spreading communism", well the same could be said in more developed nations (again I can only talk from experience here, but at the height, there were propaganda slogans being thrown around "Reds under teh bed" was one). The Cold War was not a one-sided propaganda driven war, both sides used propaganda to curb support.

"Snowing now in Weed California, bbl."

This doesn't disprove global climate change

The climate change comment in my last post was a joke (I was trying to comment on every sentence in your post )

<you know all those countries where people set off bombs to protest tyrranical govts?

You know why it's impossible to happen here?>

You mean like the Oklahoma bombing? Or what about the attack in Tucson? Columbine? 9-11? Not really impossible imo.

The constitution was written for an 18th century people. In 1862 it was "revised";

Amendment 13: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Subsequent amendments led to universal suffrage and the definition of a "citizen" (I bet even you love THAT one Einstein).

Since you hearken for the constitution written by the founding fathers, I conclude that you also hearken for a society dominated by WHITE MALES, in which it is possible to own a slave. You say I want to "overthrow" the constitution. I say realistically, our needs as a society have evolved since 1791, and the constitution should EVOLVE accordingly.

And I'm Canadian by birth, but a dual citizen via my father's birth. Ooooooh I bet that bugs you too

Then you're not asking for the constitution written by "your forefathers", you're asking for the constitution that has evolved, and will continue to evolve. Semantics, yes, but when you say it like that it sounds like you want to eliminate the amendments.

I disagree with you on the healthcare/gun laws, but that's another argument.

"Why a daily pledge of allegiance? Isn't that something more suiting for a dictatorial regime?"

OFC NOT!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg

> Einstein wrote:

> No the words in it as it stands, AS IT WAS WRITTEN - in the parts not changed.

So founding fathers indeed <

The "under God" part in the Pledge of Allegiance wasn't in the original version and it was written by a socialist.

"That shows how ignorant the Arfeh is, confusing the Constitution with the pledge of allegiance!"

haha, why dont you try talking belgian politics with him. see how good you measure up you pompous ass!

I support the amendments that were formally added as provided for in the Constituiton.

Anything derived from emanations and penumbras of the 9th or 14th Amendments can be discarded.

"The tax law has got to go, FLAT TAX BABY!"

Flat tax? One tax for everyone/everything? (Is this income tax or other taxes?)