Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

Right now I have 21% of my buildings in rcs and a 37% income bonus, plus a 45% bonus in construction. At least, RCs are proving more useful than TOs, imho.

477 (edited by 0rion 24-Feb-2012 18:32:34)

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

Research centers and To's both have their use. The statement that TO's are not useful is absolutely bullshit. The optimal % CF TO is 75/25.

Doesnt matter how many other buildings you got. For example: You only have 50% other buildings and only room for 50% cfs or cfs/tos. Then you'll always produce 12.5% more cash if you use TO's (Netto even a bit more cuz its multiplied with bruto cash income), no matter wether you have other buildings or not. Therefore Tax offices are always useful. This fact stands completely apart from the fact rcs are essential.

Also To's give an additional 12.5% income and not 50%

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

The main problem with quantams that I'm finding is the lack of a speed bonus. Sure the extra 20% income would be nice, but good activity makes up for it.

I think if I do it again, I'll take a race with an income bonus and a speed bonus.

Worrrrrrrrrrrrrrd

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

well that depends on the size of the galaxy you'll be going into timmy tongue

480

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

what Orion says is right, TOs are the perfect adition to make quantams the best SS race

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

thats why u only had 2500 income tongue

BA DUM TSS

Rchie

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

How does the math work? With less percentage of Cfs to's effect should diminish accordingly, since TO's bonuses are spread across fewer buildings.
I don't know the math and I'm not doubting what you guys are saying. I'm just a n00b trying to learn tongue

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

I am not sure that the most efficient ratio is 25:75 TO:CF...it also depends on the number of buildings I believe (haven't done the math, but starting out with that ratio isn't that useful and you spend more on infra)...

I give your invention the worst score imaginable. An A minus MINUS!
~Wornstrum~

484

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

lol TOs are horrible for ss

anyone who disagrees is wrong.

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

Orion you are completely wrong.

At 100% CFs/TOs TOs gives 12,5% more income
at 50% CFs/TOs, TOs gives 6,25% LESS income

At 66,67 % CFs/TOs, you get same income with and without TOs

LORD HELP OREGON

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

TOs are super bad for SS, replace with RCs if you have high research bonus, if not basically swap out for more CFs. Both will net you more gc in the end.

"I lie down next to an angel, fall asleep and fly with the demons"
I once prayed to god for some planets, but quickly found out he didnt work that way

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

1    Shawshank Redemption    Tim Robbins    97    389857    312257
4    UiOiEi    Quantam    84    344179    276979
3    LegoMan    Quantam    100    347298    267298
6    A    Quantam    77    321352    259752
2    Not from here    Kidnapped by UFO    148    365472    247072
7    Its Timmy Time    Quantam    95    317500    241500
5    Socrates    Kings of SD 2.0    128    336112    233712
9    Anamez    Quantam    77    275425    213825
8    black kitten    YOur Real GOD    88    283296    212896
10    A S H U R A    Quantam    74    259376    200176
13    Madblast    Quantam    62    236405    186805
11    TBlackoutT    '-Not Alone-'    91    252107    179307
14    Monopoly    Quantam    63    226192    175792
16    Hippy    Quantam    62    221986    172386
12    Chronicle    Quantam    91    238313    165513
15    golden sand    Quantam    78    223564    161164
17    Luckey me    Quantam    67    212961    159361
18    Spam    Can-O-Meat    67    208979    155379
20    Look I am a    Quantam    66    202737    149937
19    23029302    Quantam    75    207364    147364



Giddy-up!

"I lie down next to an angel, fall asleep and fly with the demons"
I once prayed to god for some planets, but quickly found out he didnt work that way

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

Boom!

"The market is like a.....game within a game Teddy"

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

Empire    Race    Planets    Networth
1    Shawshank Redemption    Tim Robbins    102    541336
2    Not from here    Kidnapped by UFO    149    509946
3    Its Timmy Time    Quantam    96    451763
4    UiOiEi    Quantam    86    450275
5    Socrates    Kings of SD 2.0    123    436086
6    A    Quantam    81    431138
7    golden sand    Quantam    102    385248
8    black kitten    YOur Real GOD    95    376138
9    A S H U R A    Quantam    75    370890
10    Anamez    Quantam    86    367571
11    LegoMan    Quantam    135    359096
12    Madblast    Quantam    86    342545
13    Luckey me    Quantam    75    340820
14    Monopoly    Quantam    79    324267
15    Chronicle    Quantam    96    324242
16    TBlackoutT    '-Not Alone-'    118    323260
17    Look I am a    Quantam    79    306584
18    Hippy    Quantam    90    304524
19    Space Commies    Quantam    81    300030
20    Spam    Can-O-Meat    84    283811
21    paytimer    quanIam    76    257266
22    23029302    Quantam    76    254703
23    Trolled    Partaxian    83    252154
24    Deus Ex    Booxze    61    249949
25    Modric    Quantam    67    235895
26    IC Hawk    SS 1.0    75    226787
27    OLD    Partaxian    74    224246
28    WT    Quantam    59    208823
29    Fabulous    SDFab1    83    207745
30    A Great Nation Rises    NewSDnoproblem    74    206069
31    I    Quantam    72    204428
32    Fear    is the weakness    59    197063
33    PresidentRunty    EvilRunts    66    186162
34    Ghazghkull Mag Uruk    Quantam    72    182115
35    Die    Antwoord    82    180890
36    Cup    Quantam    50    170000
37    Tyrant    Quantam    52    166630
38    Arsonist    Twisted Firestarter    48    166324
39    Jigglypuffs    Quantam    50    166209
40    Pirates    Quantam    62    165567
41    soda machine    Partaxian    54    164231
42    insignificant    sd101    44    154317
43    B0xer    BOX_SD    65    139113
44    Magna Libris    Pits Grans    39    136856
45    ArgaBara    Quantam    53    129488
46    Falling Skies    Serenity Firefly    39    97364
47    Rescue    Wardancers    45    85246
48    3r33r3    Quantam    37    82840
49    100th Player    Quantam    4    48709
50    Raunchy    Quantam    2    29494
51    Firefoxy    Wardancers    9    17866
52    Rainbow Dash    BubbleGum    5    12587
53    Mallerisi    Wehrmacht    1    8472
54    Haecky    Revalons    1    2130



only 54 left smile

Dutch bastard

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

oh crap.....

~*✠ ]PW[ Forever ✠*~

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

preedict,,   20 left in the end ?;x

492

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

its last man standing so i say 1 left in the end tongue

------------------>I'm Portgas D Ace!!!<-------------------
Do that standing on your head and I'll be impressed!!
             Well, my kilt will fly up, but I'll try.
                   WOW he = Portgas D Ace

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

mm there  are also pnaps..

if i where to winn at least 3 others would survive.. just cus i pnapt them.. so i say all naps together and distance between players means probably 10 or 15 left in the end

Dutch bastard

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

Orion, how long do you already play IC?
Anybody who has doubts about TOs check the income formula in the FAQ.

the relevant factor is the following:
* (1 + (2*TOs / TotalBuildings))


so its obvious the higher the number of ALL buildings together the less you make with TOs. under certain circumstances it could even be that the income is higher with cfs only without any tos.

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

and a heck of a load cheaper to make cf's!

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

just a heads up paytimer = nap breaker smile

Leap ahead

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

not a Nap,  not even a  Cf -breaker  ;]     

''Week 34, 3
so justa small agreement, to keep those planets as Border points,
x:25 mine area
x:26 yours area

which we try to keep out, but its not break of nap if we dont ;]~~
Sent to tnuRlivE of PresidentRunty (#6102)''


*******
  just killing inactive, who sends msg's like this::

''Week 34, 3
enjoy your last few days in the game.
Signed, tnuRlivE of PresidentRunty (#6102)''

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

LOL go Paytime!

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

rationalize it however you want paytime. 0 respect for you, however i didnt have much for you to begin with :S lol smile


jaguar = most worthless forum poster :S

Leap ahead

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

Socrates (6111) has DECLARED WAR on us.

yikes