Topic: Languages

RisingDown just zinged me for improper usage of a language (see racism thread).

So here I come to ask... is there not an understanding that people trying to use a foriegn language can make mistakes?

I mean Latin is not my first, or second (and yes to my joy I am actually learning a second language as I drive) language.

So the question comes to mind. Was he fair to call me out on my improper usage of the words 'et al' or should he have been more polite instead? What sort of standard should we apply?

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Re: Languages

There should be an understanding for people trying to use a foreign language, in fact, learning a foreign language should be encouraged in my opinion.

However, there are some exceptions.
The primary exception is when someone attempts to appear smarter than he/she really is by using a language that has a "smart" connotation to it, such as Latin, or is otherwise trying to impress another person (for instance attempting to impress someone by using French), while not completely having mastered (quite the opposite) the language.
In these cases, the use of said foreign language only has an adverse effect.

However, I do want to point out that I merely pointed out your mistake because you included the absurd notion "If you fail to post a reply then you are a facist racist xenophobe!" in your post, which made me want to make fun of you big_smile.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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Lol

I guess I was foisted on my own petard!

And the language I am learning is Tagalog.

Kamusta Ka?

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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I happen to be half filipino tongue

But I suck at Tagalog, so I won't even try.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

5 (edited by RisingDown 28-Jan-2012 20:31:24)

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although i will say...

Bobo si Flint!

/me runs.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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RisingDawn I have no clue what you said...

Not but lesson 16 out of 60 yet, but since I started Jan 15th..

Ang Babae ay nasa Silid Tulugan.

Ang Lalaki at ang bata ay hindi nakkahiga, sa (might be wrong to use sa here) nakkaupo sa sopa.

The lessons proceed well. I can identify a lot of things now, and mostly get basic sentence structure correct.

Imperial Conflict Forum ay itim.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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lol flint you amaze me sometimes. learning tagalog

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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"So here I come to ask... is there not an understanding that people trying to use a foriegn language can make mistakes?"

Yup, and they normally understand that the consequences were brought about by their mistakes...I have made a few doozies, and I accept the harsh return of words because I made the mistake. Getting into trouble over phrases whilst learning is a steep learning curve, but one that often is beneficial...

I give your invention the worst score imaginable. An A minus MINUS!
~Wornstrum~

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Well I'll say you know more sentences than me already, basically all I know is how  to call people stupid, ugly, call their mothers whores, etc etc (that's the kind of stuff my cousins taught me when I asked them to teach me some tagalog phrases... go figure).

I never took the time to learn tagalog and I regret it, but I will applaud your efforts.

Just don't use it in a discussion to sound smart!

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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Rin why does it surprise you that a person seeks to better theirselves?

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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Latin isn't really a foreign language per se, it's more an academic language perhaps? And because of that you gotta know what it means when you use it.

"Et al" means "and/with others", I've only seen it used in the context of studies (e.g. "Piliavin et al").

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In America it used a lot in legal proceedings, and a bit in the media.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
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