Topic: 2012 State of the Union

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-of-the-union-2012-obama-speech-full-text/2012/01/24/gIQA9D3QOQ_story.html


We'll restore our economy by backing losers and failed experiments.
None of us has anything except we taxed your parents and grandparents.
I agree with Abraham Lincoln when he said letting millionaires keep their own money is taking it from old ladies.
That's why tonight I've ordered the Navy to hire illegal aliens.
I've put more tundra up for drilling permits I won't grant.
Our troops are coming home and tonight I call dibs on the savings.
Honda, Ford and Toyota are hiring: I did that!
America works better when Congress gives the President permission, but when you won't I will act.
What happened in Detroit can happen everywhere!!!

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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"So tonight, I call on every State to require that all students stay in high school until they graduate or turn eighteen."

Can someone remind me what the current laws are?

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Re: 2012 State of the Union

You can drop out at 16 in most cases.

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Re: 2012 State of the Union

A good speech. with Romney as opponent Obama will have his second term easily. Romneys' 13,9% tax is in my view a joke. With Gingrich it will be a bit harder, Obama would need a diffrent strategy than. But Gingrich is too controversial in the end, he won't have the full support of the repulican party.

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who are the distinguished guests?

The inmates are running the asylum

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/24/state-of-the-union-guestlist-buffett-jobs

There are few names listed here, although I don't know if these are the people meant by "distinguished guests" in the speech.

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"a few weeks ago, the CEO of Master Lock told me that it now makes business sense for him to bring jobs back home. Today, for the first time in fifteen years, Master Lock

The inmates are running the asylum

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The American worker, the American employer, the American investor and the American family own nothing. They earn nothing. They do not grow the economy. They merely take from others. Your own personal efforts to educate yourself, train yourself to better job performance, new products, more sales, that's just other people giving to you. You didn't do it. They did it for you. You can't claim to own what other people did for you. You can't keep everything other people give to you.

And when the government does not get its full share, when each keeps more than they need to keep, that's a taking from others because government will just have to take more from others to get its need. Abraham Lincoln was right: Government should not do more than what people can't do by themselves. And it turns out what America can't do for itself will cost about $2 trillion a year. Government needs the money to prop up the economy by investing in experiments that won't work. Government needs to create penalties and rewards for "market-based" programs that move us in the direction government wants to go. Solyndra was GOOD. FannieMae/FreddieMac is GOOD. We need more of it.

You punch the clock every day to support government, and through government, the economy. You don't get to have an economy without government. Government knows that and won't forget it. Government can tell what you need and what you don't need. Government can give you what you need and don't have. Government can tell what jobs and companies need to die, and government can tell what jos and companies need to be invented. Government can tell what jobs should be available to citizens and what jobs need to be assigned to illegal aliens.

And when we say "government" we mean Barack Hussein Obama. His personal preferences have the authority of God. No man, no company, no industry, no state, no Congress has any right to tell Barack Hussein Obama he can't spend money where it needs to be spent, or can't kill an industry whose time is over. Barack Obama's favor shall raise shining cities from bare ground and his wrath shall make blighted wilderness of orchards and factories. Thronging multitudes shall move or stay at his gesture. His wisdom is greater, his will is grander than all the three hundred millions scurrying at his feet. Cause they're so stupid they think they did it for themselves.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Ron Paul 2012!

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I think Obama has infringed upon his previous speeches yikes

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3DUDDRiGIUYQo&feature=player_embedded&v=UDDRiGIUYQo&gl=US

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdwr-xNJIU&feature=g-logo&context=G23f9029FOAAAAAAAKAA

The above is an analysis of parts of the State of the Union by the Cato Institute.

Some of the things they mentioned (may not be entirely correct transcription):

Obama: For the first time in 9 years, there are no Americans in Iraq.
Cato Ins: Obama outsourced defense contracts, lobbied tremendously to keep US forces in Iraq, and expanded US presence in the Persian Gulf.

Obama: Our auto industry was about to die.
Cato Ins: A couple of firms were about to die, but that's what's supposed to happen in competition. Other auto companies could have reaped GM's death.

Obama: Saved millions of jobs in the auto industry.
Cato Ins: A million jobs were never at stake. That's a hyperbole, part of a public relations campaign by Detroit.

Obama: Right now companies get tax breaks and profits for moving jobs overseas.
Cato Ins: That is nonsense. US companies do not get special breaks for moving jobs overseas. In fact, US pushes companies overseas with our punishingly high corporate tax of 40%, in comparison to 23% worldwide.

..and some other stuff, including education, but I'm done typing, so check it out yourself!

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his auto industry tale was the biggest pile of bullshit Ive ever heard from that podium.

in the 1990s the Japanese figured out they could diffuse a lot of US protectionism against their brands if they shipped parts to America for assembly in American factories. The "American auto industry" includes Toyota, Honda, Nissan, KIA, and Mercedes.  Those firms, with Ford, did not take bailouts.  When he touts "the american auto industry" success as proof of the value of the bailouts he is lying out his ass.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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I refused to listen to it, because I hate being lied to and talked to like I'm a complete moron who can't tell when he's being fed shit and told it tastes great. But a friend did play a bit of it over voice chat.

It was ignorant and full of outright lies, as expected. He's smart enough to know that "alternative energy" isn't going to be cheaper than oil for decades, at the soonest. He's smart enough to know that, based upon this fact, nobody is going to create wealth through "alternative energy" for the entirety of that time. He's smart enough to know that he's pissing away hundreds of billions of dollars while people struggle to make ends meet. He's smart enough to know that the free market innovates and improves ideas better than government bureaucrats paying off their cronies.

But he wants more government power across the board, in every imaginable aspect of life. So he says things which are absolutely false, beyond any shadow of a doubt, so that the willful ignorant and plain retarded can say ooo that sounds responsible and positive!

Because he knows enough of you are stupid enough to believe it.

The saddest thing about what's coming is that most of us deserve it. We voted it in time after time.

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democracy fail?

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