1 Topic by Orbit (edited by Burned Waffles 22-Jan-2012 22:36:07)

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Topic: So you wanna be a pre-beta vet..

Dear Smaug,

You pre-beta piece of shit.  Let me explain something to you and your goofy little followers, mizzle, teddy, easyway, ect ect.  What you are doing is not saving a dying game, you are all digging the grave together.  You have decided to cancel a nap on my alliance, 2 small families with some decent and promising players,  guys who are enthsiastic to learn and understand this game, and now what are we helping them to understand?

That you can cancel a nap on an alliance more then HALF your networth, and then demand they pay you 100 planets to reinstate the nap.  Is this the image we are showing to the new players of this game.  You stupid [waffles].  and your stupid [waffles] friends are shitting all over this game and the mods, and other decent players are sitting by and letting you do it. 

Now i am no saint Smaug, id be the first to admit it, i like a good war, but a fam half my size would be a [burning some waffles] insult to my own skill, and demanding planets is something i can not stand.  You pick a fair target, you use savings as an advantage and leave economies even.  You fight them, you nap then and you do not take planets for free. 

TAKING FREE PLANETS FROM SMALL FAMILIES IS NOT A VICTORY

And to all those in MW this round, this is how 04/05 are trying to win this round, by bullying fams for planets. 

I have made many rash and sometimes controversial decisions in my time in this game, but I would have been red in the face if I had to pull this shit to make myself a better player.  And i write this thread now for all those true vets, new players, mods to show you just how great this good for nothing waste of space and time is. 

You consider yourself something special, but you smaug are living in a dream world.  Do not pretend to be something you are not.  Take that signature away from your name because I have played with vets from that time who would be disgraced by your tactics. 

FYI - Cloud accepted your nap, our alliance will pay you 100 planets, because smaug, what else can he do?  he has to protect these players from your miserable play and give them a chance to end this round having some good experiences otherwise they wont bother coming back.  But although i respect cloud for making that tough decision I think letting you get away with this bullshit is promoting futher foul play and I want leaders to set new standards for their families because a round isnt won this way, its won on the experience gained and the entertainment earnt. 

Go [throw some waffles] yourself Smaug.

"It's very quiet on the political arena. I wish someone would stir up some trouble!"

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well thats just rude!

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3 Reply by Smaugey (edited by Smaugey 22-Jan-2012 21:42:05)

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lol once again, im not even goona read this i get the point by the last line. Not worth my time...ummm yeah orbit has no idea what he is talking about. Nobody should really pay attention honestly tongue

So ur just spamming forums now...

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4 Reply by Smaugey (edited by Smaugey 22-Jan-2012 21:44:06)

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Everyone knows we arent "fond of each other orbit" Keep it to the ingame if u wanna spit a bunch of bs to someone.

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5 Reply by Orbit (edited by Orbit 22-Jan-2012 21:49:05)

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I am waiting to hear your reasons.  I think everyone would like to know why you feel you need to demand 100 planets from an alliance that your family alone is bigger than.  Other families would let you get away with this, but im calling you out big shot, i want to know why.

"It's very quiet on the political arena. I wish someone would stir up some trouble!"

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Lol cant 18 just stall it out ? wtf is 04 05 gonna do than? re-cancel?

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7 Reply by Orbit (edited by Orbit 22-Jan-2012 21:58:21)

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[18:19] <&Smaug> We are fixing IC orbit
01[18:19] <OrBit> seriously?
[18:19] <&Smaug> yes
01[18:20] <OrBit> nice
01[18:20] <OrBit> fixing ?
01[18:20] <OrBit> what are you fixing
[18:20] <&Smaug> Everything
[18:20] <&Smaug> we are going to overhaul the game
[18:20] <&Smaug> add features
[18:20] <&Smaug> eliminate farming
[18:20] <&Smaug> fix forums
[18:20] <&Smaug> etc.
01[18:20] <OrBit> about time
[18:21] <&Smaug> yeppers

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- 50 planets will be paid to 5804 from 5818, 50 planets will be paid to 5805 from 5806

- NAP will be signed in the ingame relations page

- In the event of war no more than 15% of planets will be taken from either side.

~ Cloud
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I confirm these terms. /Teddy
Signed, Rolikt of KP Mitsubishi Ki15 (#5805)


Are you eliminating farming by just demanding planets instead?

"It's very quiet on the political arena. I wish someone would stir up some trouble!"

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8 Reply by Smaugey (edited by Smaugey 22-Jan-2012 22:01:50)

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Hmmm...maybe u have problems reading tongue

I have nothing to hide, ur full of crap, simple as that...im not going to waste my time with u. Anyone that wants to know can ask me. Other than that this is a personal matter you have with me orbit. Im not going to explain myself to u orbit, ur makin stuff up tongue This is all based on speculation. The situation is finished. Thnx tho for making my type more letters on my keyboard for no reason. No matter how hard u try, im done talking here.

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9 Reply by Orbit (edited by Orbit 22-Jan-2012 22:05:37)

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oh yes, i made up what you said, and i made up the nap you just bullied my alliance for.  This has nothing to do with you and me,  this is you and disregarding the honour that used to be well known in this game.

You said you have nothing to hide, and anyone can ask you,  well im asking you...

"It's very quiet on the political arena. I wish someone would stir up some trouble!"

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> Smaugey wrote:

> Hmmm...maybe u have problems reading tongue

I have nothing to hide, ur full of crap, simple as that...im not going to waste my time with u. Anyone that wants to know can ask me. Other than that this is a personal matter you have with me orbit. Im not going to explain myself to u orbit, ur makin stuff up tongue This is all based on speculation. The situation is finished. Thnx tho for making my type more letters on my keyboard for no reason. No matter how hard u try, im done talking here.

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Re: So you wanna be a pre-beta vet..

imo smaugey you're just putting this on orbit, which has nothing to do with it...
His top post may be a bit harsh, but we're pretty upset atm about this whole ordeal.

You still haven't really said anything in response to the subject why you are cancelling/asking planets?
I'd really like to know.. ?

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Aslong as families keep surrendring to such extortion tho, nothing will change. Keep retaking, op bankers, make them pay and wait for bigger fish to go after them...

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Re: So you wanna be a pre-beta vet..

I agree 100% Noir, but it shouldnt be happening at all.  It puts a great pressure on leaders to accept a certain defeat against a fam 3x their size.

"It's very quiet on the political arena. I wish someone would stir up some trouble!"

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14 Reply by Smaugey (edited by Smaugey 22-Jan-2012 22:31:39)

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I already said i wouldnt attack 18/06 with both me and my allies. Ask cloud.

If u guys wanna read orbits garbage and believe it go ehead. But im not giving him the satisfaction.... i wasnt goona hit them like that.
90% of the people here know both of us...They know our track records and personalities. I explained this to cloud already thats good enough for me. Sry this thread was made because orbit has a problem with me, u guys should have asked orbit to leave and find a new fam when the round started. Its just goona get worse from here for u...Most can agree. But im not here to bash him as he is trying to do to me, so ill stop now. Ive already wasted my time enough here in this thread.

Im done explaining myself now...I have too many things to do, im already on this game way too much lol

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Well Smaug, your not really explaining yourself well at all? 

you wouldnt attack with your allies?  you wouldnt hit us "like that"

then why did you cancel the ALLIANCE NAP and why did you DEMAND 100 PLANETS

"It's very quiet on the political arena. I wish someone would stir up some trouble!"

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btw i also agreed and played my hand to the nap cancelation on 18/06, cancelation was sent, 2 ticks later they offered planets without us asking, we accepted, so feel free to throw abuse in my direction =p -  18 quite easily dismantled 03, which were pre-round favourites to be the best attacking force this round, so no reason why they cant do the same again, just dont have the bottle =p

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17 Reply by Noir (edited by Noir 22-Jan-2012 22:42:06)

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Re: So you wanna be a pre-beta vet..

Insane i think you miss the point where 18 was just comming out of a war, meaning that the cancellation itself was bs

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Orbit if you want things to change, and u want Smaug to answer you. Than why are you insulting him like this? Your acting like a impatient child.

Anyways, I agree that demanding planets for free from families is BS as well. Unfortunately, to compete with the other top families who does the same thing, we have too. If we would set new policies and standards for future rounds, I would be more than happy to follow them. But the other problem is, that ppl find their infra too precious, ppl cave in too fast without any resistance....All smaller families should do exactly what Noir said, OP, retake, and just be persistent and annoying until some bigger alliance comes along.

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> Noir wrote:

> Insane i think you miss the point where 18 was just comming out of a war, meaning that the cancellation itself was bs

Well i personally knew nothing about there previous war, we just looked about saw we had a good position on them, and seeing as we just finished elsewhere fought we would cancel =/

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I'll have you know that my family has not demanded planets from any family, let alone from a family half our nw.
Just so you know.

NEE NAW NEE NAW

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21 Reply by Orbit (edited by Orbit 22-Jan-2012 22:51:55)

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Re: So you wanna be a pre-beta vet..

Insane, think your missing the part where 04's NW is greater then our alliance put together.  So i think cloud offering planets for peace is a natural reaction to the situation you put us in.  However he shouldnt have to offer you planets because you shouldnt cancel on an alliance so small.

Teddy, think your missing the part where i said leaders need to set new standards for their families and not just say "well they are doing it" 

Do you know how frustrating it is to see a decent game be made a mockery?  Especially by a guy who admitted to eliminate farming.  This is why i insult smaug, and because for so long this has gone on unchallenged and i think the community deserve to know what is going on.

@ Primo, even though you are a lazy bum i have a big respect for the way you treat players and families.

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Anyways, I agree that demanding planets for free from families is BS as well. Unfortunately, to compete with the other top families who does the same thing, we have too.


Congrats teddy you just helped explain one of the major reasons we have about 250 players in mw instead of 2000. If someone farms than I should as well because they do it.  As a leader or someone who actually cares about the game you should be the one to decide that you can win without having to resort to shady tactics.

“I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”

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Teddy dont be pathetic, our fam has not demanded planets like that at all, and you are still not keeping up

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I'd rather be a pokemon master.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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25 Reply by Brandonn (edited by Burned Waffles 23-Jan-2012 00:15:15)

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Bla Bla Bla. Fight like a man, don't whine. You have to suck ass if you want to get to the top and if you are not the best. If you lick/suck enough ass you'll get to the semi top for sure.

Now if people fight against bigger fam who start on smaller fams, they will be stalled which will not encourage other fams to do the same to bigger fams. The problem IC has is that little fams don't fight back anymore, little fams just go inactive, whine and give free planets. If they would fight back, they will have fun, will be owned, but stall others which will set an example to other fams.

And maybeyou don't even get owned, ,look at gurney (and family)last round in MW, he fought back like a man, stalled teddy and his [tasty crispy waffle] ass friends(love you though) and teddy's fam dropped a bunch.

So get your head out of your ass and fight. It's imperial conflict and sometimes bigfam have conflicts with small fams.

FIGHT

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