I would love Rick to be the one.

Paul... what sort of hatemail message could I say about him? So many choices...

Mitt the Mutt... blended of so many ideological changes, some in less than a few hours. I want his campaign to go the way of the Titanic... great fanfare, invincible ship, sunk and made a footnote in history.

Huntsman... what he still clings to his notion of getting elected?

Bachmann... bout time she dropped out, first one is down.

Periwinkle... fishing for presidency still... his stance on illegals makes me sick.

Newt... well before Rick somehow leaped up he was my choice, 2nd up, but only if Rick dives. Please don't make me hold my nose and choose Newt

id, lol

Yeah it does.

But remember... Obama is a disaster as well

And... you really think he'll get that, if elected?

Santorum said that fatherhood, faith and family is the answer to americas financial problems lol, he would bankrupt and collapse anything asap haha

> Justinian I wrote:

> Zarf/MedicineMan

I have doubts that he would get such legislation passed unless social conservatives far exceed my expectations in the 2012 elections. However, there is nothing unreasonable about refusing to support someone based on their extremist views. I doubt either of you would criticize someone for refusing to vote for a racist.

But that's an ethical standard against the racist thing... something Justinian would abhor.  It's not utilitarian. 

"But remember... Obama is a disaster as well"
True, but he gets away with it. Big successes he had none yet he has a lot of support still. His biggest failure is his economic policy towards the crisis but few rep candidates seem capable to point out the obvious. That is why I think he'll win anyhow.

please he is a wanker who will explode the budget as well as Bush or Obama and the veterans in GOP will be glad to help him, that is why they are lining up behind  him.  they WANT to convert the GOP into the Not-Democrat party ---"So what everything sucks, if you don't like Democrats come on in"  that way they can screw up anyway they like

they have looked at the last 30 years and they put their finger on where it all went wrong for Republicans:

Republicans promised but refused to deliver

so they hit on the solution

don't promise anything!

They won't even promise to repeal Obamacare, in fact the Republican House funded it and will fund it again, and they are already saying that if they don't have the White House , the House, and 60 votes in the Senate they can't touch it.  And if the public doesn't give them that dictatorial power immediately then  they can never repeal it ever.  There is no point to a professional association of career politicians that just wants to defeat Democrats, and they can't hold it togetehr.  They already failed in 2005-2006.

> The Yell wrote:

> They won't even promise to repeal Obamacare, in fact the Republican House funded it and will fund it again, and they are already saying that if they don't have the White House , the House, and 60 votes in the Senate they can't touch it.  And if the public doesn't give them that dictatorial power immediately then  they can never repeal it ever.  There is no point to a professional association of career politicians that just wants to defeat Democrats, and they can't hold it togetehr.  They already failed in 2005-2006.

So... how are they supposed to legally repeal the law if not by the legally required amount of votes to actually repeal the law?

And budgets require... the President, majority of the House, and 60 votes in the Senate to pass!  The GOP tried to assert its ideal funding already with the budget debates, despite having only a majority in the House... to no avail.  Regardless, you still need this crazy thing called a democratic majority... something TheYell doesn't seem to like when it doesn't fit his motives.

>>And budgets require... the President, majority of the House, and 60 votes in the Senate to pass!  The GOP tried to assert its ideal funding already with the budget debates, despite having only a majority in the House... to no avail.  Regardless, you still need this crazy thing called a democratic majority... something TheYell doesn't seem to like when it doesn't fit his motives.<<

Wrong.

The House had the power to refuse to pass ANY budget except the one it likes.  Nobody else can even start with a budget.  If the Senate votes it down or refuses to vote they can change a , to a ; and send it back as a different bill.  They shoulda done that forever til global markets forced the Senate and Obama to cave on it.

It was the HOUSE, not the SENATE, who has the leverage in funding bills.  And they caved.  Boehner went behind closed doors, came out with a surrender, and ordered all good loyal Republicans to and i quote the man here "GET YOUR ASS IN LINE" and they did.  It happens every time and it's pathetic.  It's pathetic and  unforgiveable because that same discipline would deliver absolute victory--if they had the wisdom to go for it.

What bluff? 

You mean, if they sit it out?  Wait them out longer.

You mean something else? Please explain.