i like this, and i think it would make the game alot more fair, but i think alot of people will disagree with me on that, because ppl like having their map gen, core and stuff ready before sor.  personally i'd say tough shit to them. 

+1

+1 pn it i like it torqez

thanks guys

its like i personally have no issues with the current system, but i think this one will make more people happier rather than annoyed.

also torqeuz, this gives fams with less organisational skills or fams that fill up slightly slower a chance to plan their strat more or less the same time as say a fam that gets 4 or 5 vets first day of randoming.

and also torquez you posted your disagreements, but never provided an alternative to this issue.

id much rather this be a discussion than a debate, outweighing different players style of play

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this doesn't mean you can't organize, it just means you have to wait until the round starts to do it, which isn't a real issue if all the fams have to do that.

Fenix has a fair point actually.  If cutting people off from their ability to organize before the round starts is a penalty, at least it is a penalty for everybody.  If anything, it is a balancing mechanism.

Look at it this way, right now players with friends and long standing connections reap the benefits of organization pre-round FAR more than new players.  Yes, they should be rewarded for being active but it is coming at the cost of new players being at a disadvantage for well, being new.  That isn't a very fair scenario for newbies, and worse it makes the game less inviting.

I agree with Alundra, it seems unfair that some people (early joiners, drafters and draftees, people who already know people here) are being put in an advantageous position only because they already understand how the game works and the time sensitivity of pre-round planning, not necessarily because they are active.

It would be a great way to level the playing field if, as suggested, people couldn't start planning until the galaxy was full.  What's more, is this would make planning more chaotic, high-stakes, and dramatic.  Dare I say, even more fun?

Ghost spots were implemented to prevent Illegal Drafting Rchie

Illegal drafting as in: if all fams are full some player in top fam gets killed off to get a friend/good player in and since thats the only spot left they will surely land in that fam. Even if you do this idea of Alundra it still leaves room to Illegal Draft after the round has begun since if all fams are full then you can still kill off a player to get someone "better" or more active in...

> General Mizzle wrote:

>Even if you do this idea of Alundra it still leaves room to Illegal Draft after the round has begun since if all fams are full then you can still kill off a player to get someone "better" or more active in...

That sounds like a problem that exists all round long then.

Maybe this idea is still worth the effects of curbing pre-round activity such that newer players and smaller families have a fairer chance to advance.

oh yeah, good point mizzle, but how about then, once the gal is full, then add the ghost spots in? this way nobody can join the galaxy until 6 people have been deleted?

thats the best i can come up with right now, but im going to give it more thought

What happens if illegal drafting would occur? Unbalanced families even more as we have now which means loosing players cause they dont get in the top fams... IMO thats more negative then the killing off of people who dont want to play...

i say make it 2 spots or 3

fam that kills somebody off , gets it
untill another fam does the same thing

only if its a full galaxy

if not ...who cares