Re: Aids

I cannot provide quick source on the 100% statement, but I believe I make a strong argument about HIV nonetheless

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Re: Aids

Sorry updated my previous post tongue

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Re: Aids

Allow me to also introduce testimoney from Kenya. You see over there under the Socialist Government the practice of AIDS death lying was broad.

Died in a car accident? AIDS did it. Gunshot victim? Died of AIDS related complications. This was rampant under the old government until it was overthrown.

Now there is a healthier diet, and many previously identified as having the low T-Cell count indicative of AIDS have no sign of a low T-Cell count. Did a Christian miracle happen, or is a Statist lie get revealed?

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> Einstein wrote:

> Allow me to also introduce testimoney from Kenya. You see over there under the Socialist Government the practice of AIDS death lying was broad.

Died in a car accident? AIDS did it. Gunshot victim? Died of AIDS related complications. This was rampant under the old government until it was overthrown.

Now there is a healthier diet, and many previously identified as having the low T-Cell count indicative of AIDS have no sign of a low T-Cell count. Did a Christian miracle happen, or is a Statist lie get revealed?



This does not answer or even directed at my counter argument? You raised an argument, loosely based it on vague sources, and then ignore counter arguments. But lets examine your further argument (even though you have ignored every argument brought before you here, and just throw around conspiracy theories).

"How the CDC's AIDS definition works:

    Kaposi's Sarcoma + HIV = AIDS
    Kaposi's Sarcoma - HIV = Kaposi's Sarcoma

    Pneumonia + HIV = AIDS
    Pneumonia - HIV = Pneumonia

    Dementia + HIV = AIDS
    Dementia - HIV = Dementia

and so on...

    <200 T4 cell count + HIV = AIDS
    <200 T4 cell count - HIV = no disease "

This is what you are getting at right? That everything gets blamed on AIDS? See, I wonder how people with HIV and low T4 cell count respond to medications to treat for the above conditions? Or because they have HIV they won't be given medication? The simple matter is, AIDS means the body can no longer fight off germs, so things like Pneumonia, antibiotics won't have any affect, thus death caused by AIDS.

"In 2008, University of Cape Town researcher Nicoli Nattrass, and later that year a group of Harvard scientists led by Zimbabwean physician Pride Chigwedere each independently estimated that Thabo Mbeki's denialist policies led to the early deaths of more than 330,000 South Africans."

So by discounting HIV, many more contracted the germ and later developed AIDS. How do you explain that?

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Re: Aids

The site I posted sums up a lot more scientific evidence than you cherry picked.

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31 (edited by ~Wornstrum~ 14-Dec-2011 15:07:55)

Re: Aids

> Einstein wrote:

> The site I posted sums up a lot more scientific evidence than you cherry picked.


Still doesn't dispute what I have said...but hey, here you go Einstein..

http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths

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32 (edited by SavingHawaii 14-Dec-2011 15:54:09)

Re: Aids

> Einstein wrote:
>
>HIV is detected in 100% of the human population. However large amounts of HIV is
>not detected unless a person has an issue with their immune system.
>
>I cannot provide quick source on the 100% statement, but I believe I make a strong
>argument about HIV nonetheless.

Perhaps that's because it's BS?  Honestly, of everything you've claimed this seems the least plausible of all.  It doesn't make any sense.  100% of people have an antigen hanging out in their bodies at any given time but they don't have antibodies for it?   Only some of them do?  Huh?  The immune system doesn't work that way.  If they've got HIV trolling around in there it's going to provoke an immune response and they're gonna have antibodies.  Also too, why would a dysfunctional immune system develop antibodies to fight HIV whereas a healthy one would not?  That also doesn't make any sense.  It should be the other way around.

Re: Aids

Autoimmune Disease.

Look it up, consider the parrallels.

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Re: Aids

> Einstein wrote:

> Autoimmune Disease.

Look it up, consider the parrallels.


I have looked up EVERYTHING you have given me, but you still IGNORE anything I respond with (even though most people who have responded here, if not all, have given more scientific evidence than you have). You are simply ignoring anything that disputes your argument, by just give links to a conspiracy movement, and arguing a point that RISKS LIVES! I gave a link to disprove your AIDS denialist points, did you even read that?

I give your invention the worst score imaginable. An A minus MINUS!
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> Einstein wrote:

> Autoimmune Disease.
>
>Look it up, consider the parrallels.

Learn your Latin.  Auto=Self.  Autoimmune = Self-immune.  Autoimmune disease is where the body's immune system gets confused and starts attacking itself.  Very bad juju but not the same thing or even that similar to Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS), though both are going to wreak a lot of havoc on the body and mess with the body's immune response to other pathogens.

Re: Aids

Einstein is well-known for quoting pseudoscientific institutes, agenda-driven talking heads, and just plain quacks who like to write authoritatively on subjects that they have no experience, formal training, or learning in. In these cases, it's best just to ignore him, or if you absolutely must be involved, slice up his source like a Christmas ham.

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