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Re: Why must Western Liberal Nations have debt?

> Justinian I wrote:

> Break the trusts!


That's exactly what you would be doing... specifically, breaking the fundamental trust between the international business community and the United States.  It's extremely rare in a modern global economy for a nation to get away with seizing assets as a revenue source and be able to retain trust with businesses... largely because that becomes an expected precedent.  That's probably the quickest method to get international investors to tell the United States to shove off... not to mention discouraging local business people from developing businesses (why build a big business if you know the government is fully willing to seize assets whenever it has financial problems).

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27 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 05-Dec-2011 02:44:49)

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Oh, I concede it will have short-term consequences. Nevertheless, banks can not be allowed to be the international behemoths they have become. We need new laws to prevent banks from owning trillions of dollars in assets and merging with other banks. The alternative, of course, is a nightmare.

And the idea of using the auction proceeds to pay off the debt is merely a side benefit.

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Re: Why must Western Liberal Nations have debt?

Let's review what those assets might be

Personal accounts

Retirement accounts

Small Business accounts

Large Business accounts

Insurance holdings

Foriegn investors


Yeah cleaning those worthless scum of their money will help indeed!


Tell me however a day before you do this.... <.< so I can... ummm... deposit extra money to help... yeah... >.>


When did you convert to a Occupy Wall Street member Justinian?

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29 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 05-Dec-2011 03:31:32)

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It's really not so radical. Teddy Roosevelt broke up steel, meat packaging and the railroad giants with the Expedition Act. Later came Standard Oil and others including AT&T (who should just die for good).

I'm not qualified to discuss the details of breaking up the companies, but I am convinced it is necessary and not as radical as it may sound. And the laws I propose aren't radical either. They were effectively in place until eliminated under Clinton poop's administration.

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Ok go sober up and then in the morning we will see if you still support this idea.

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Re: Why must Western Liberal Nations have debt?

Btw, any answer to my not all 'liberal' governments carry debt? Or at least not as much debt as 'conservative' governments....

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You_Fool, have you noticed yet that you're on Flint's blacklist, hence why you're not getting replies from him anywhere?  I was trying to decide how long I should keep up listening to your pointing out "Hey, you didn't answer X" before I'd let you know you're being ignored.  tongue

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I know that, doesn't mean I can't poke him to answer.... I win by default if he doesn't answer tongue I can use his silly notion of a black-list to my advantage....as much as that can be applied to a web-based internet game's political forum....

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34 Reply by The Great Eye (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 07-Dec-2011 20:05:46)

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Yeah, except considering you know the context in which you argue, it doesn't prove or disprove the validity of your argument, relative to his... it's like going to the Super Bowl, explaining to people the benefits of promoting international trade, and saying you won because, rather than considering and analyzing your argument, they told you to stop interrupting the halftime show.  It doesn't make you right.  It just looks stupid, and shows you're utterly oblivious to the surrounding circumstances (except in this case, you're 100% aware of the circumstances, which means you're solely trolling, because you know for a fact there's no way this will result in any sort of productive discourse on the topic matter).

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I am open to discourse, he is the one refusing to take part in it, I even argue on topic. It is trolling by making a relevant post, just because I know he won't respond, I then troll more by telling him I win because he refuses to answer.... of course if he answers I win anyway, it is a fun game....

As it is, I have also managed to respond to anyone else who cares to join the discussion, i am not adverse to actually discussing this topic after all...


Also in regards to your little analogy, I think you have it wrong. It is more like being a a super bowl (yuck) and having the guy next to you, or maybe a row down, start loudly proclaiming how his side is the best, or how the other side is wrong and supporters of the other team are not worth talking too, and me responding knowing that the guy won't respond cause i am a supporter of the other team. I am talking on topic, i just know he refuses to debate with me, and I am using that to claim he can't debate. Sounds like a right wing tactic to me...

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