that is what i thought, not that i'd have dropped mine, but i was under the impression you couldn't drop but plainly you could.

Flashy, there is no one who is going to tell you to nap both parts of an alliance when you've only fought/skirmished with one of them.

I played 2 rounds ago, in which i was in the top alliance, ran the infra in the early round, organized the SoR round on the other top alliance, attacked with Hoity for most round until hoity went inactive and SLS joined. How did we become top alliance? We slowed down the other top alliance early (since they didn't have each other covered enough which allowed us to SoR raid). Furthermore, we paved the way for our allies to catch up (up until mid-round their infra was a chaos) by clearing all close intruders, and later we worked together with allies (even though it wasn't the best cooperation) to take out the final targets, who by then weren't even competitors any longer. Why did my fam not win the round if we carried our allies? Because our allies decided to rape 3 tiny fams when we let them off even when we could hit them, and even when they stupidly tried to hit us.

plus 2 rounds ago it wasn't possible to switch allies, you couldn't even break alliance. The leader of our allies (accidentally) and some rogue VL (who was never found out) tried to do it plenty times. Did you even play that round?

Render, am i the one being an arse, or are you just being whiney cry babies?

Sorry, but this is something i feel i have to say.

And again: permanent allies didn't stop pw 2 rounds ago from being a complete domination, only hampered slightly by deletions resulting from intra fam fights due to boredom (in my fam).

RD is right u shouldnt take allies out its going to make it more boring and more difficult for the smaller fams.

but once allied they should be permanent.

RD what fam u in?

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And again: permanent allies didn't stop pw 2 rounds ago from being a complete domination, only hampered slightly by deletions resulting from intra fam fights due to boredom (in my fam).

because you were lucky or smart to pick a good ally, others didnt. Now those stupid conflict you had on EoR can be easily prevented with a pNAP with your own ally

also I do not comment on your other response bcause I'm sure you're wrong a probably talking about other not me

Render, intra fam fights, not intra alliance.

How would a pnap with my allies stop my own players from getting into arguments with each other and 1 deleting and 2 others asking to be killed off (leaving their planets defenseless just when we are about to be cancelled on)?

Flashy, you are right, most fams will nap whole alliances at a time. However, when fighting a well-organized alliance, I'd say the difficulty of winning the war adds a layer of competitivity rather than taking one away because of a lack of allies: the quantity of fights is less important than the quality.

That still leaves the disorganized alliances, which may be a bit of a let-down, but making the next round no-allies is not going to help the people in those fams come up with better communication or strategies and will not benefit this round in any way, rather affecting it negatively as people may not take it as seriously as they are looking forward to next round (since mods promised them it would be without allies, so why bother to play this one?).

That was the same 2 rounds ago, Flashy, except we chose not to farm.

Still, I did experience that same boredom .

However, was that boredom caused by the idea behind the galaxy being uncompetitive or just the lack of other, organized, strong alliances?

Wrong, not both, it was caused by us hoarding strong players from the round before (stay in fam round) so we just plainly had more talent in our fam than any other fam .
So in fact it was the second, except we were just more competitive than anyone else.

I agree with you on starting positions though