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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062056/Pizza-vegetable--covered-tomato-paste.html?ITO=1490
That is all.
A healthy lunch and gym class does little to counter an unhealthy lifestyle overall. The conservatives are silly, but Obama is wasting money. To be effective, people living unhealthy lifestyles need to receive a low health care ceiling and pay even higher premiums.
And that is not even the beginning of it!
> Justinian I wrote:
> A healthy lunch and gym class does little to counter an unhealthy lifestyle overall.
>The conservatives are silly, but Obama is wasting money. To be effective, people
>living unhealthy lifestyles need to receive a low health care ceiling and pay even
>higher premiums. And that is not even the beginning of it!
I'm certain that if you gave even crappier health insurance to unhealthy people, your average 12 year-old is gonna say "Gee whiz! I probably shouldn't be eating all these Big Macs!" before he inhales the supersize fry.
Trying to provide nutritious meals at school is probably gonna do a lot of good for kids who don't get anything of the sort at home.
This is interfering with parental rights and you approve?
As ever the Daily Mail is being shit, it's not the pizza itself that's the vegetable but the tomato sauce.
That being said however, this is why you're all fatties.
> Fenix wrote:
>its not interfering with parental rights, parents can still go do mcdicks and
>feed their chubby little kids all the big macs they want. That being said the
>fact you can't feed your 12 year old kid all the blow he wants is also
>"interfering" with parental rights. This food as a whole lowers life expentancy
>and more importantly costs the tax payer in the long run, the government has
>an obligation to make sure the children are provided a healthy meal for that
>reason alone, parents don't like it? they can send there kids to private school.
Eh, the parent can also drive to the kid's school during lunch hour, zip them down to mcdicks, shove a couple dqpw/c down their kids throat, and then zip them back to school. Hopefully in a large SUV and drive-thru only. Or the parents could just pack tubs of Crisco in a paper bag and send their kids off.
I mean, if the parents truly hate their children, there's really nothing stopping them from ruining their kid's lives.
> Einstein wrote:
> This is interfering with parental rights and you approve?>
Parental rights do not exist. Parents are the stewards to the next generation. If they can not handle that responsibility, then it belongs to the state. If parental rights existed, then why should the state intervene against child abuse?
> SavingHawaii wrote:
I'm certain that if you gave even crappier health insurance to unhealthy people, your average 12 year-old is gonna say "Gee whiz! I probably shouldn't be eating all these Big Macs!" before he inhales the supersize fry.
Trying to provide nutritious meals at school is probably gonna do a lot of good for kids who don't get anything of the sort at home.>
Nonsense. Gym class does nothing. Neither will lunch. To be healthy, all your meals have to be. 1/3 healthy meals is worth nothing.
People must learn to suffer for their stupid decisions, and people making smart decisions deserve to not have the costs from stupid people spilled over on them.
Are thoose guys serious?
Do they think anyone at all dont see that they are only after larger salesvolumes at the cost of childrens health and education?
Noir,
1/3 healthy meals is worth nothing. To be effective, you have to impose healthy food everywhere. For example, forcing McDonalds to sell healthier alternatives.
Remember, this isn't just a health issue. It's a national security issue, which should trump the parental rights issue in importance.
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A group of retired generals advocating for healthier school lunches also criticized the spending bill.
The group, called Mission: Readiness has called poor nutrition in school lunches a national security issue because obesity is the leading medical disqualifier for military service.
'We are outraged that Congress is seriously considering language that would effectively categorize pizza as a vegetable in the school lunch program,' Amy Dawson Taggart, the director of the group, said in a letter to members of Congress before the final plan was released.
"Nonsense. Gym class does nothing. Neither will lunch. To be healthy, all your meals have to be. 1/3 healthy meals is worth nothing."
Actually a shift towards healthier food (even if it did just start with 1 meal a day) would change alot. Firstly the weight gain would slow (less calorie intact = less conversion to weight). Also all of the good yummy nuetrients may make these people a little bit more energetic.
I speak from experience, I used to actually be obese, lost 20kg in 6 months, and funnily my change of diet made me happier and more energetic. Once a change is started, it is easier to follow. But that really isn't the point here.
"1/3 healthy meals is worth nothing. To be effective, you have to impose healthy food everywhere. For example, forcing McDonalds to sell healthier alternatives."
Actually, at least in Australia, MacDonalds does offer healthier options on their menus (even their Happy Meals for children have healthy options such as apples instead of fries). A range of foods should be provided, and school should be the place that students start to learn HOW to balance a diet. Noone in their right mind would argue that pizza is a healthy food, it contains fats and oils (and Dominoes pizza in Australia contains the same energy as 12 cans of Coke!!!). By allowing schools to market these as healthier choices, it doesn't assist in education of a balanced diet since kids would consider this a healthy option.
This has nothing to do with rights of anyone, but allowing a truly balanced option to students. America has an obesity problem, and the solution starts with education...
this is all a joke, right.
right...?
right?
RIGHT???
Justinian you are so far off!
Who are you to claim that 1/3 healthy meals doesnt matter?
The healtier you eat, the better. 1/3 healthy is healtier than 0/3 healthy, thus better. Simple math (for some atleast)
Im not saying forbid all unhealthy food, lord knows i love it some times. But in school cafeterias, where children hardly have a realistic choice, do them the favour of helping them to eat healthy, and they, their parents and society at large will all benefit from it.
Oh sorry, i forgot to mention that, YES McDonalds or the bacon and freshfries lobbyists might lose from it!
I already knows how this ends. They tax tomatos. Then they tax them even more trying to save producers of tomato sauce. Only the worst ones survives.
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