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What if we de-nationalised policeforces and create a EU-policeforce? It would for sure increase mobility and reduce a lot of costs. It might also decrease corruption from eastblock countries.. On the other hand it might be more dangerous to powerabuse then having comepletely different 'islands'.
You have a lot of pro and cons but let me here your thoughts about it.
From what I hear out here in America, the worst police corruption in Europe is in France.
I think Europolice would drive the UK out of the EU.
Seems like you've got some insight on the matter. There is also the idee to start with a few nations before making it an all inclusif. Like the once proposed idee of an EU army.
what about different laws in different countries?
Isn't this what Interpol is for?
That's what Interpol is for...:P
There's a something like Europol, managing contacts between pliceforces of different European members. But indeed, a unified policeforce would be a good thing. But before we are able to do such a thing, we'll need a unified lawbook. Or a system like in america, with departments that can do things over the national borders..
However, we can be sure that the UK would reject such a proposition. Their policeforce has a total different background and they're known to be rather sceptical about european propositions...
A unified European Army would surely be a great thing as well.
wfs,
Like arms also said more or less, it take a lot of investment in the lawbook idd. But without denying the huge price for that I think its worth it. Weren't you some kind of expert WFS or do I mix you up with somebody else of the IC-oldtimers metalheads? Anyway do you think it would be to much trouble if we just let them out?
> TheYell wrote:
> From what I hear out here in America, the worst police corruption in Europe is in France.
>I think Europolice would drive the UK out of the EU.
but of course. countries like belarus can't compare.
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> Little Paul wrote:
> Weren't you some kind of expert WFS or do I mix you up with somebody else of the IC-oldtimers metalheads?
He's a historian 
I'll let you figure out how much of an expert that makes him.
lol, but he is an oldtimer and a metalhead so I was 75% right.:p
Old timer? he's 21 isn't he?
I say no to a European Policeforce, out of principle. Don't even get me started on the Euro Army.. I prefer the Coalitions of the Willing.
Euro army... the UN are a great example of why that wouldn't work - too much diplomacy (look up Sierra Lione, RUF, Operation Palliser and Operation Barras - the most effective part of the UN forces were indians who were operating almost separate to the UN anyway by the end).
little paul, you need to read the book called 1984, and to be slapped
@fokker&just:
me and just and wfs are here for a very long time. Thats what I ment. I'm also only 25.
@big man:
everyone could have guessed from your name you would try to advocate the exact opposit of my opinions . On a more serious note I'm intrested but you have to provide me with more info about it.(I can't read the whole book).
@BiefstukFriet:
Why not? As about the european army, they can join a qualition 2.
@Psychogenesis:
The un is very different from what a european defence institution would be.
@justinian:
it is an option though I prefer a EU-policeforce as the UN lost much of his feathers anyway. Its a far to weak organisation. Eu has far more power as an instition. Maybe in the future the EU becomes even more powerfull and national institutions disapear over time. A policeforce would surely do much good to that.
Because when a nation's military joins the European military it has to abide to and follow European foreign policy. At times doing so could not be in a nation's best interest.
Take the Dutch presence in Uruzgan for example. Would we be there if we were part of the EU Military?
Besides, I think that a European Military would be unbalanced and unpractical. Look at Germany vs The Netherlands / UK, they have totally different philosophies. The Germans politicians, for the lack of a better word are spineless cowards when it comes to using their armed forces.
You'll see soldiers from certain EU memberstates doing all the heavy fighting, whilst others will sit on their hands. Just like the current situation in NATO.
European PoliceforceBecause when a nation's military joins the European military it has to abide to and follow European foreign policy. At times doing so could not be in a nation's best interest. It would be in EU's intrests, and you would be part of it. I.o.w. others are slaved to you to.
uk is left out. Military is military. They can be organised proparly but yes it might cost time and money.
"You'll see soldiers from certain EU memberstates doing all the heavy fighting, whilst others will sit on their hands. Just like the current situation in NATO."
Thats what happens now. But in the US, they lack this kind of problem. So its another point for instead of against.
You can't can't compare the EU to the US. The EU military would have to find a compromise between all the different martial philosophies of it's member states, and will end up being less offensive minded than some would like. The USA does not have this problem.
"You can't can't compare the EU to the US. The EU military would have to find a compromise between all the different martial philosophies of it's member states, and will end up being less offensive minded than some would like. The USA does not have this problem."
There should be no veto's if thats what you mean. Then you don't have to compromise much more. The US army is also less offensive as some would like. Same problem. No difference. But I don't understand what you are saying. The dutchies aren't all that bloodthirsty anyway so its exactly the same for the dutch army as it stands.
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