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Do not include PW, its fine as it is... wink Already non-draft and nice for new-ish players or inactive vets to play... tongue

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exactly dimple the first ICC played the 2nd place fam was all randoms, the point for me is its a game and i dont want to be forced to play with someone i dont want to play with or land in a fam that 80% are inactive thus its a waste of my time since i play active.

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leave PW out of it - players are there for the short rounds, the randomness (if thats a word  tongue) and the FUN. if other gals aren't having fun then its not PW's fault.

you'd be better off fixing the damn forums first

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i believe i have typed this many times(will merge into one galaxy than it will slowly disappear as in the website) soo yes i am in favor of the move smile

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I think 1 and 1 should be fine. What makes a fam good is leaders. Honestly when you add more drafts you get more noob leaders. As the second tier of leaders get drafted. A good leader can keep a fam out of trouble and plan a great start that works for the fam.

I like playing with friends. But you can always chat with em on irc. OR ally em.

Leaving pw out is fine. As long as pw is active and doing well on thier own. Mw had a great set of 3 rounds well 3rd one going now.Love the idea of merger no prob if you leave pw alone.

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either merge them all or dont bother. wot none of you seem to realise is that merging just andro and mw will do nothing. absolutley nothing. it will be a slightly bigger gal but (especially if we go with 3 or 4 vips and 3 or 4 drafts) there will still be a small number of fams doing especially well.

all gals need to be merged together and i really dont think the mods should give us the choice. some ppl will hate it, but i cant see the game lasting much longer otherwise. asking ppl wot they think merely makes the mods have a second opinion about this. yes, we will lose some players, but alot of those players that are complaining will be unhappy at first that it happened, but will play anyway to see wot its like. just as when mw was made an all random gal for a round or two.

making a separate galaxy that ppl can play as well as their regular gal is pointless. it will be no different to sd this round. not enough players will want to join or have the time to play more than 1 gal and we just wont have enough players fro a gd round.

as the mods have said over and over in the other thread, its just a test round. 1 round. lets just do it and if it isnt liked then we can change it back the round after. come on you pansies, get over your fears of 'what if blabla happens' and just let it happen for 1 round

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Arch I agree 1 round test is good. It really does calm the nerves. What is somewhat surpising that so many are for it.

If you look back at the history of IC there was the great MW andro merger. A lot of people got upset on that one. players left some players really enjoyed it. The best way to do this would be to crash ic and then Set it up tongue just like old times.

Ok in seriousness. If pw is working why ruin it. I understand its just a 1 round test, but why break something not broke. Also as being in mw I think its a pretty enjoyable round. And i am in 20th. out of 35 fams.

I like more fams and bigger maps 1 ally is great as it gives more teams of fams that have a chance.

Also i like it very much instead of just triple resources start us off with 2 e-ships or something. A monkey wrench. Maybe no market for 24 hours at sor. Why i think this is a good idea. Fams that get endurium off market is at a huge advantage right off the back. This will also force new strats,

New strats is good New strats is what will make ic fun again for some. My current fam Is going for it win or lose. We playing ic our way. This is what ic needs.

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i have to say for a long time i have planned on quitting ic after the coming icc competition.

this is a very intriguing thought tho, and i would actually play another round or 2 if it occurs

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I'm copying my post from the other thread for you guys to read;

My opinions:

Like bara said, less fams, more members in a fam. That way we will have the experienced and new players concentrated into the fewer fams. Its better than having many fams but  many useless/inactive fams for the most part.

I'm a new player, so I'll tell you how a new and active player thinks:

For example, after getting out of virgo, I decided to get some training in PW. Once leaving PW, I would want to join either MW or Andro. Since I'm not a vip, I would have to random into any fam in either galaxy.

If I get random'd into a small and inactive fam, I'll just delete, since a small/inactive fam don't deserve my activeness. Then I tried again and got random'd into a a good fam (preferably top5, or any fam which I see has potential to play FTW), I would stay and give my all.

However if I'm always random'd into a small/inactive fam, I'll just keep deleting until I'm unable to do so. Once I cant delete anymore, I'll just go inactive and play another online game. I can't remember how many countless times I did that.

My point is, new players WANT to and MUST be given the chance to play with active and experienced players. Any new player who get random'd into a small/inactive fam would quickly lose interest in the game and leave.

As for the number of drafts/vip/random. A 1/1/1 would be nice. A better chance for me to play with great players

Lastly, leave Pw as it is. It where new players gets a higher chance of playing with good players due to the no draft system.

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60 (edited by MotherJedi 05-Jun-2008 09:03:22)

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exactly !!

PW has a lot of vets in there that play because they like to play ic, they can play with and against friends they have made over the years, its totally random so you can make new friends and its a way you can keep playing ic without it becoming a labourious task taking months to end .....

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I agree 100% with jets. Jets have my babies plz

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Do not involve PW in this. There must always be a choice. If you take all galaxies, there is nowhere else to play.

...meh...

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So two non-draft galaxies... Yes sounds like a smart idea... Certainly when 3/4 of all players play in mw/andro (which are draft galaxies) *sarcasm*

When you don't have drafts you won't be able to spread out the good players over all the fams equally. I think the current amount of vip/drafts (3/3) is pretty good. Alot of competition in an andro round atm.

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64 (edited by Glue 05-Jun-2008 13:16:17)

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I do stick to my opinion 2/2 drafts if this merge occurs, take away this and noone will bother buying vips , unless they want to throw money away ^^

Haters gonna hate!

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I agree with Archangel. Merge all, or none. Merging MW and Andro aint enough players totally...not active ones anyways. Do one test round, if it fails, it fails, if its a success then we keep it, its not that hard, and even PW players can manage one longer test round.

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not really... atm we are struggling to keep them active for 6 weeks... GL with 2 months

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Just leave PW open to everyone, including the ones playing regular galaxy, problem solved. 3 gals in which everyone can play: the normal one (mandroweda), pinwheel as the relaxing no draft gal, and sd as the special rounds gal + testing ground...

With such a low player base, I dont think it's a problem to just let everyone play in all three galaxies.

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well... merging will probabely end my IC days.....

I love the 6 weeks... if you end up in a bad fam it's just for 6 weeks.... and the non-drafting makes every round fun... one round you fight next to eachother and the next you're killing eachother.... I think that's the fact that PW players keep coming back..... I've seen lots of them trying to quit and then returning after 1 or 2 rounds.....

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My two cents, I think I've only drafted or have been drafted twice. I've been playing Andro since round 8 and I always random everytime there is a shuffle. I've met some amazing people in that time, I've randomed into top tri's and randomed into crappy bottom familys. Heck, this time around I randomed into Arch Angels fam tongue. It's always fun, but sometimes it's more fun in the lower fams because it's more of a challenge to stay alive. To say that you cannot have fun without your friends is total bullshit. I have a friend in the oppossing alliance and we are always making fun of each other and each other's family. To all you naysayers, give it a chance you might actually end up with a bunch of people that could become really good friends. Besides, it's only one round. Don't like it? leave playing a round for a little bit and do something else. Summer is coming so head to the beach and meet someone tongue

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Lets look at this from another angel shall we ?

What is the problem with IC right now ?

We got to small gals and to few players !
am I correct or not ?

If I am correct this is what need to happen.
we need to find out what the players LIKE in ic.
Form up 2 gals to begin with that suits 2 groups as good as possible.
As if we made only ONE gal to many would leave the game the 2 gal solution is the best one I can think off.

One "old style" gal with drafts and stuff.... (MW) ???
one "modern" gal with few drafts and some of the recent changes to the game left in place. (Andro) ???
Start to put in some money for comercials.
Start some competitions in the game wich gives vips as prices.
Reshape the tutor system for virgo so that ppl learn a lot more while in virgo then they do now.
As I come across ppl who have finished virgo without learning jack.
Mybe connect leadership of a fam with a tutorship or some other method.....

Once these 2 gals are flodded with players more gals can be started do these 2 gals need to be prio1 to ensure there is inuff players in the game as a hole.

Mw:
Map size: 200 x 200 (3*3 sectors)
Systems: (Make it so averedge pcount is 1800 planets for a fam at eor)
Families: 50
Family size: 20
Drafts: 5/5
Max allies: 3 (reinstate Tris in other words)
Length: 3 Months
Attacks and Ops delay: None
Resources: Standard

Andro:
Map size: 150 x 150 across 9 sectors?
Systems: (Make it so averedge pcount is 4000 planets for a fam at eor)
Families: 100
Family size: 12
Drafts: 1/1 or 2(2
Max allies: 1
Length: 2 Months or 6 weeks.
Attacks and Ops delay: 3 days
Resources: Quadra

As the players becomes more and more active and fams are filled all round and players start to complain they cant find spots not even if they random its time to either boost fam nr in the 2 gals OR setup another gal.
But as I said these 2 gals should come before other gals as they are supposed to DRAW players to ic and keep em playing also.

Regards Arganon aka Assasin

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do you just perfer to be a total dumbass or are you really so bloody clueless?

There are barely around 1000 players, which is why they want to merge the galaxies. Making 2 galaxies with a total size of 2200 players is bloody ridiculous. And old style play has no drafts because drafting didn't exist in the old days.

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Lets see....you can either try to come up with solutions to problems......or you can whine at anyone that tries.

But who will do anything for the game and the comunity the whiner or the doer ?

If there is to few players for mw and andro as I showed them.
then use the relativ size of them to get 2 such gals.
I cannot know how many players there are thats something for the mods to keep track on.
But if  all you can do is whine then I sugest you delete ur ic account and get a hobby elsewhere ! tongue

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I'm not whining, I'm bitching at how stupid you are. And if you had the intelligence to scroll up you would have seen my other post jackass. And as far as I've seen, you've caused a shit load of problems within the community with your careless stupidity and general ignorance on how IC plays. So learn the game before you start coming up with hairbrained ideas on how to change it.

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<+Zarf_BeebleBrix> we have a schitzophrenic underaged queen attempting to assassinate a whoremonger king while getting around cowbell-wearing knights...

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i actually have to say i agree with arganon.... maybe with less players and have one of the gals still as pw tongue

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I want PW to be involved myself smile Aslong as the drafts get moved up

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