No it will be nothing like SD...

a) Dont involve PW as it attracts the people who want short rounds with no drafting
b) Increase number of drafts

yea really lmao

andro and mw players who go to pw tend to be rather inactive, which is why they choose to go to pw in the first place

anyway i will copy my post from the other thread cos i still think its the best solution and i dont think anyone saw it among all the petition posts:

"the fewer players in the fam the less interesting it is. 12 player fams is good. 1 draft/1 vip is also perfect becos it allows there to be a large number of competitive fams.

Pw needs to be merged too, becos otherwise we wont have a big enough player base. i would suggest then that wot is needed for n00bs to still get interested in ic is for virgo to be revamped. give it real competition and get rid of the stupid 10 planet limit, passing ppl through only when the mw/andro/pw round ends or has just started. make the galaxy huge so that there's no chance of n00bs running out of space, have a decent number of fams, but dont make the space in each fam too big and put two tutors per fam again. more fams = more competition. keep the rule about tutors not being able to attack the n00bs definitely, but even just ecoing is quite fun if you get the chance to do it properly, ie: working with someone else for greater efficiency, and being able to use more than 10 planets lol. and if you have 2 tutors per fam, you will inevitably end up with 1 banker and 1 resourcer/attacker, which means we can get competition going between the tutors as we can have them leading their n00bs in wars against enemy fams, teaching them the basics of fighting, which doesnt at all happen at the moment in virgo. the tutors would fight the enemy tutors and vice versa, while at the same time the n00bs fight the n00bs, each side getting advice from their tutors. this would truly test the tutors ability to teach rather than his ability to make large posts in the forum at SOR and then go inactive  Finally I would also add a higher nw limit to attacks if possible, like 50% instead of 35%, becos n00bs arent all going to be joining at the start of a new round, and we dont want big n00bs stopping smaller newer n00bs from getting a gd start.

warsie i heard from nolio that they intend to implement this after the ICC.

and definitely bring back tri alliances. they made the game alot more fun. if stefan has time to fix the forums at sum point over the summer, that would be great, but i think tri alliances would still be better than 1 ally or none."

this is the discussion thread...

Well... just to give my opinion...

I started in PW and never left the gal...I love the time a round lasts and the part that it's non drafting..... And I think there is a pretty large group of hardcore PW-players that don't wan't to go to other gals.....

If you merge gals merge one into PW so we will have full and active fams again....

More -=Retired=- then the other bitches

you cant merge all 3 into one. simple. pw players like the NO drafts and short rounds with extra resources and the andro and MW like it the way they do andro and MW you can merge them.... they are very similar but you will lose lots of people if they are drafts i wont want to play because i like randoming and same people will win each round.

but then people who want more drafts arent going to want to play. i seen many posts about 3 or 4 drafts

I would sign up IF and ONLY IF there were 2 or 3 drafts/friends. I play because I want to play with people I like. Take that away from me and I have no reason to come here anymore.

well sorry to lynns and others that want lots of drafts, but i think that for the advancement of ic, sacrifices must be made. 1vip/1draft still allows you to play with 2 friends, and tri alliances allow you to ally 3 or 6 more friends if you want. but we need as big a player base a possible and that would require putting all 3 galaxies together. andro with its 3 drafts/3 vips was rubbish this round, barely any decent fams. pw looked pretty shite as well with 1 tri completley dominating. mw went well last round with 1vip/1draft and it is the compromise between current andro and pw.

the more players the more fun. you will quickly make friends with the randoms in your fam. if you dont think thats right then think about the fact that people enjoyed playing this game for several years before drafting was introduced.

i find the map tools more useful than the drafting from vips tbh.

and 1/1 with tri alliances allows you to play with 2 friends still and to ally 6 more.

Thats your problem Arch, not ours. Glue is a nice guy and someone who always aks the same people first. Its just happens an awful lot that you are stcuk in the fam you are in, and not want to leave it

I completely disagree we should touch PW. Leave that as it is. A big playerbase is fun, but MW and Andro together will have to do. Its not a valid argument that with PW it will be even better, cause it won't. There must be a choise aside from the UberGalaxy, and that has to be PW, not Virgo

My own point is, that the families should be as full as possible. 100 fams filled will not succeed I think. We can either decrease the amount of families and keep it on 15 players per fam (less fams, more players), or we should have more families, but decrease the size per family to something like 8 players. (more fams, less players).

I like the more fams, less players per fam idea best, because players get more control over the families by drafting because 25% of the fam can be drafted, and you are more depended on the few randoms you have so if you have fresh blood from virgo, you will have to train them well to do good in the round.