51 (edited by avogadro 02-Jun-2008 18:06:04)

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

first of all, alot of southerners fought for the north and alot of northerners fought for the south, it wasnt slavery vs. freedom for every man like liberals want you to believe. it was a tyrant forcing federalism over states rights. outlawing slavery in the rebelling states was just a way for Lincoln to cripple their economy to punish the south. He was no saint.

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

hmmm.... Ok I will assume you think livestock feeds off of grass lands.

Most of the farm land is used to raise food for the livestock.  Feed grain/corn and soy make up the bulk of animal feed.

"Pasture" means its not being farmed.  I COULD be used to let maybe milk cows wander about.

But, animals to be slaughtered are not wandering about the country side.  They are in controlled pens, on a controlled diet, getting nice a fat. 

Makes for a nice marbled steak.  big_smile   yummm.


So.  I will assume as well, that you didnt know.
You really should do your homework though.

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53 (edited by Han 02-Jun-2008 20:02:08)

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

You cant be serious..

Have you ever left the city to see how a farm operates?

Not all pasture land can be converted to cropland either.

Try to learn a bit more before you start talking.

http://www.beefusa.org/uDocs/Feedlot%20finishing%20fact%20sheet%20FINAL_4%2026%2006.pdf

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

The abundance of feed corn in this country contributes to the economic viability of producing grain-fed cattle. In fact, it will often cost more to raise cattle on pasture because it takes longer for the animal to reach market weight. That is why grass-finished beef can be more expensive than grain-fed product.


From your source.


Thanks for making my point for me.


What did I need to learn ?

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Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

"Cattle are raised on range or pasture land for most of their lives (usually 12-18 months), then transported to a feedlot for finishing. These cattle usually spend about three to six months in a feedlot"

Since you're blind with ignorance and arrogance (american in other words)

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

"it was a tyrant forcing federalism over states rights. outlawing slavery in the rebelling states was just a way for Lincoln to cripple their economy to punish the south. He was no saint."

Actually the slave states sued to the Supreme Court to ensure that every state, whether it wanted to or not, accepted slaves as chattel property of their masters.  That was the Dred Scott ruling that invalidated the Missouri Compromise of 1850

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57 (edited by avogadro 03-Jun-2008 15:07:11)

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

> TheYell wrote:

> "it was a tyrant forcing federalism over states rights. outlawing slavery in the rebelling states was just a way for Lincoln to cripple their economy to punish the south. He was no saint."

Actually the slave states sued to the Supreme Court to ensure that every state, whether it wanted to or not, accepted slaves as chattel property of their masters.  That was the Dred Scott ruling that invalidated the Missouri Compromise of 1850


learn history. Dred Scott was the slave and was the plaintiff. and he tried to "sue" his slavemaster, not a state or all the southern states. the southern states did not have any power over the ruling. it was purely supreme court.

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

Carter vs George W. Bush

I know who id pick

Buddugoliaeth neu Marwolaeth

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

@ HAN

what are you trying to say ??  That all unfarmed land, is pasture land for Cattle ??

Yet, many here, YELL being from one of the largest farm states in the US, and I am telling you is that Land is kept UNFARMED to keep the prices of food at an economic controlled inflated number, so Farmers can make a living.

Your frozen tundra to the north is kept unfarmed as well, for the same reason.

Please....get off your point. 

You are incorrect.


Carter = Gore.

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Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

do your statistics include land that isnt being farmed atm because of farm rotation?

Re: Jimmy Carter was once my President ??

"learn history. Dred Scott was the slave and was the plaintiff. and he tried to "sue" his slavemaster, not a state or all the southern states. the southern states did not have any power over the ruling. it was purely supreme court."

You're right about the parties.  However, the legal principle was that a free state had no authority over property in another state; and that when property in one state was moved to a different state, it must remain property everywhere in the United States.   That is hardly an affirmation of states rights over federal encroachment.  The situation Lincoln stepped into was already a boiling cauldron of resentment at the Federal authority denying any Northern or western community the right to oppose slavery.

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