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I'm voting Metrex. I don't have much on him though, but he defended Nolio rather easily and he bandwagoned on iluvatar rather easily.
I hope to come up with something better tomorrow morning though..
I was subject to Nolio being cunning lol he had left out the little fact that he was a mob Jack since im new i thought the special roles were for Town only haha,
as i said in IRC i have no reason to lie to defend my self, thats one big + for being a Townie. which in a way is very good for my first Mafia, townies know they can trust me! 
Im voting illuvatar
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**** SCOREBOARD ****
2 - Chees (Genesis, Lexuzis)
1 - Primo (Elrohir)
1 - Neptunes (Iluvatar)
1 - Metrex (Arnor)
1 - Iluvatar (EDN)
Still to vote:
Alchoran, Amok, Arby3, Chees, Generalskulls, Gwynedd, Metrex, Neptunes, Primo, Skyroshroud, You_Fool, Zarf BeebleBrix
Just under 12 hours remaining!
I am going to vote Metrex for the same reason as Arnor, i ill change this later amybe... esdp since this is a change from my apparently unposted vote on Elrohir cause he was first to accuse...
The rationale goes like this for Metrex: Nolio said he doesn't lie, and did a good job of dancing around his affiliaction. He said he had told some people that he was townie, Metrex claims to be one of those he told. If Nolio doesn't lie, and he did a good job of not lying, then the people he told were mob, metrex said he was told, therefore he is mob. Nolio said "i will pretend to be townie by claiming I am Jack of all trades implied to be a pro-town role" in the mob forum.... anyone who said they were told directly by nolio that nolio was townie only heard so in the mob forum...
I will admit I got tricked by Nolio i guess I put a bit too much trust in him and I kind of see what Primo and Arnor were talking about prior to the lynching about Nolio confusing things haha.
but as that is, I can assure you im 100% townie, if I was mob id be frantically trying to save my ass saying whatever, to whoever but I'm not facts are facts I dont have to lie this round because i don't need to trick anyone.
with the Nolio thing he told me he was Jack, this being my first Mafia i didn't know mob could have secret roles too, hence i didn't pursue asking him if he was mob affiliated or town affiliated, i took it as it was and thought i could Trust him, i know better for next time.
For a little more clarity....
here are some logs of me conversing innocently with Nolio..
Session Time: Tue Jul 12 00:00:00 2011
[01:48] <Metrex> asshole!
[01:48] <Metrex> lol
[01:48] <Nolio> =o
[01:48] <Metrex> you were mob
[01:48] <Nolio> I never said I wasn't =p
[01:49] <Metrex> yeah thats why i dont feel betratyed so much
[01:49] <Metrex> hah
[01:49] <Nolio> lol
[01:49] <Metrex> although you never asnwered the
[01:49] <Metrex> are you town nolio
[01:49] <Metrex> lol
[01:49] <Nolio> lol
I said "thats why i dont feel as betrayed" or whatever because he technically didnt lie to me, he just didnt tell me the whole truth..
I have more logs to prove innocence but I think I have made my point clear that i have nothing to do with Mob.
I vote Iluvatar! I'm still suspicious of you and think you're not telling your whole story! X(
I'm voting Ilu as well, he's the most suspicious among my list of potential mobs. He tried covering for Nolio a lot before the lynch and afterwards after it was revealed that Nolio was mob Ilu kinda said 'my bad' and stayed away from the topic.
Im voting Ilu as of now too.
I would like to see where this ilu bandwagon goes, so my vote goes for him.
im still going to see if there is any solid evidence for a mobbie anyone got anything?
read chat 
after talking to many ppl in chat, it seems i have a short list of people with "suspect behavior"
one of them is ilu, tho not on the top, others are voting him, and he is kind of a jerk sometimes.
i vote ilu as well
tho if anyone comes up with better, im setting my alarm for stupidly early time, to see if i should change to someone better.
You_fool seems to know alot about what goes on in the mafia forums...
I'll vote ILU just cause he voted me, have no suspicions as of yet execpt maybe ^
After talking to GS, Skyro and Zarf I am of the opinion that Ilu, Elro and You fool are most likely mafia. Based on this, it seems appropriate that I will vote for Iluvatard.
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i'll vote ilu, although im starting to get less and less convinced...
Haha, was excepecting this really. Im oki though. Eltara is dead, im just
based on what are edn and GS mob?
based on nothing but endless research. It wont mean anything now, but when i die and turn out to be townie, you'll see how those 2 turn out
i'm sure, but it'd be splendid if you actually gave some arguments to convince us they are mob.
**** SCOREBOARD ****
8 - Iluvatar (EDN, Alchoran, Metrex, Skyroshroud, Generalskulls, Neptunes, Gwynedd, Primo)
2 - Chees (Genesis, Lexuzis)
2 - Metrex (Arnor, You_Fool)
1 - Primo (Elrohir)
1 - Neptunes (Iluvatar)
Still to vote:
Amok, Arby3, Chees, Zarf BeebleBrix
3 hours left to vote!
im voting for ilu aswell
just so people are clear on why i am voting Metrex (who on evidence i have seen seems most likely) though i am happy to be wrong and will take on others evidence against Ilu...
21:35] <+you_fool> nolio is most, and he hasn't said he isn't mob yet...
[21:35] <+you_fool> ilu looks to be the mob scape goat
[21:36] <+you_fool> EDN is getting a little attention now from mob fam b
[21:36] <+Metrex> he has said he wasnt mob
[21:36] <+Metrex> i trust him
[21:36] <+Metrex> so ill stick with voting ilu
[21:36] <+you_fool> when?
[21:36] <+Skyroshroud> lol, how do you know he's from fam b?
[21:36] <+Skyroshroud> are you in fam a?
[21:36] <+you_fool> in your mob forum?
[21:36] <+Metrex> hes said hes town to me
[21:36] <+Metrex> and trust may be my downfall i nthis first mafia of mine
[21:36] <+you_fool> who knows
[21:37] <+Metrex> but im a townier i have no reason to lie or decieve
[21:37] <+you_fool> i could be wrong
[21:37] <+Metrex> if Nolio happens to be townie
[21:37] <+Metrex> then what?
[21:37] <+Metrex> you're all wrong
[21:37] <+Metrex> and primo is full of it
[21:37] <+Metrex> haha
[21:37] <+you_fool> then we move on, knowing that he wasnt
[21:37] <+you_fool> Nolio does a good job of pretending to be mob
[21:38] <+Metrex> well hes said hes never lied about his role
So for clarity, before Nolio said he was 'jack' Metrex was claiming that Nolio had said he was town... which he was not...
This is extremely light evidence, even less than what I based my nolio vote on, but it is better than pure heresay that is the ilu bandwagon (until i hear otherwise)
i hadnt read that Mobs had a secret role too, it was a legitimate mistake to assume Nolio was town from saying he was Jack. Lynch me if you legitimately think i am Mob.
I've been sitting online for the past few hours, trying to get an idea of how to vote this round, to no avail. It's odd, but this vote is definitely more difficult a vote than the day 1 vote.
As Gwynned mentioned, there are a few names being thrown out for right now. I'm not sure if any of these guys are mob, and frankly, I have to go to bed and can't take the time to further observe what happens today. It increasingly seems like these votes are guesses.
However, I guess the iluvatar decision does have some merit to it, as has already been explained before.
Really, all 3 possible mafia names thrown out don't have much evidence backing up the idea that they're mob... Out of the three of them, ilu has been online, and has faced the charges brought, yet has remained silent. Although I don't think any of our mob choices have good evidence behind them, this is hard to ignore.
Anyway, reluctantly voting Iluvatar. Let's hope for the best.
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