76 (edited by TheYell 04-Jun-2008 00:03:34)

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@ Freelancer....

1.  Iran hates America ?  hmmm.  Hate is a hard word.  Iran "Hates" jews and Israel, that is clear.
Iran Hates America...might be.  .....  So what ?

2.  umm...yea.... Govt. by the people, for the people.

If you dont understand the political system of the US, why bother commenting on it ?  Gore lost.  Period. 
The only travesty of the 2000 election was the ONLY Part that not even most of my politically savvy friends know.
The Media ??  rofl.  They are as "Smart" as their new found idle Baraq Hussien Obama the enlightened is.

The Media misses the point that the only travesty of 2000 was Gore taking the matter to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court actually TAKING the case.......

Reality ended up being that Bush did win Florida, and the only votes that the Dems were trying to throw out was the absentee votes...of course dominated by Military overseas.

Funny, the Dems know that those Absentee ballots would be OVERWHELMING cast for Bush..... how astute of them.

How astute of you to be as educated as them on the political process.


Im happy to know that PROZAC studies the US in university.  ROFL.
Like we didnt know that already.
Your are a [fellow soul with dignity] filled w/uni fed envy.

Yes. America is great.  Thanks. 
Keep up your studies.

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Gore did lost but he had the most votes. Thats is not democracy

"Your are a mush mind robot filled w/uni fed envy."

we do not envy your country. we study america like we study any other country history.... please do not think you are more special than others

"umm...yea.... Govt. by the people, for the people."

lol

78 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 28-May-2008 00:54:03)

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> Freelancer wrote:

> Gore did lost but he had the most votes. Thats is not democracy

I've got this one.  smile


What's so great about a purely democratic system?  The US system ensures that a variety of interests are represented in the government, rather than simple majoritarianism.  Otherwise, a leader could represent only the interests of urban populations, using that to undermine agricultural interests, and never have anything to worry about.

No, our system doesn't completely decimate single-issue candidates.  However, it significantly lessens them, unless the entire nation is engrossed in only one issue, in which case the situation would be too extreme for either system to fix, so it wouldn't matter in our comparison.

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79 (edited by TheYell 04-Jun-2008 00:04:08)

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Good Job Zarf.....problem is...that theory is lost on socialists....


Lets make it simple.

@Freelancer

The US is a Republic [sirrah].  Still lost ??

Want to ask a question about the US election system ??  or keep believing what you supposedly "Study."  hehe.

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"What's so great about a purely democratic system?  The US system ensures that a variety of interests are represented in the government, rather than simple majoritarianism.  Otherwise, a leader could represent only the interests of urban populations, using that to undermine agricultural interests, and never have anything to worry about."

US system makes sure that minorities controls the majority.

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thats because the minorities are the ones most affected by the decisions made

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> Freelancer wrote:

> "What's so great about a purely democratic system?  The US system ensures that a variety of interests are represented in the government, rather than simple majoritarianism.  Otherwise, a leader could represent only the interests of urban populations, using that to undermine agricultural interests, and never have anything to worry about."

US system makes sure that minorities controls the majority.


1: Bull.  If that were the case, the majority candidate would never win.  The fact that the majority candidate won in 2004, 96, 92, 88, 84, 80, 76, 72, etc., sort of proves you wrong.

2: Your system makes sure that majorities control the minority.

3: Geography, local economies, and local cultures play a big part in defining viewpoints.  Since we segment each voting block, we ensure that the most viewpoints overall are represented.  Therefore, we create a majority.

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84 (edited by avogadro 28-May-2008 03:30:29)

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> Manticore wrote:

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> Iran "Hates" jews

Not true. Iran definitely has a grudge or two against Israel though tongue.
Jews in Iran aren't ... you know, as they were in Nazi Germany for example.

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actually that is true skoe....Iran believes that Israel belongs to them...that the Jews there stole it. but thats something totally different.

also, im not holdng grudges or making bad comments about other countries...over in Iraq and Afghanistan we are being helped by Brit, French, German, Spain, Italy, Australian, Canadian....and many other countries. which all oddly enough have the same beliefs we do on the war on terrorism.

but of course...its the americans who take the heat for it not other countries lol. and thats ok....cause the one in the light always takes the heat for those in the shadow.

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"The 2003 invasion of Iraq, from March 19 to May 1, 2003, was led by the United States, backed by British forces and smaller contingents from Australia, Poland and Denmark. A number of other countries were involved in its aftermath. The invasion launched the Iraq War, which is ongoing."


And i have never said anything bad about silly Americans wanting to help Afghanistan this time around -- except that they, you know, armed and supplied the Taliban prior.

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lol what a waste of time hehe but w/e im sure its fun for some tongue

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Go attack people in some fake galaxy.  We're busy.  smile

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Ehh the one that wins the american president ellection is the one that is shown the most in tv.
It's an extremely crappy way of having a democracy.

Black_Wing loves it though, cause it's how his country does it. He could never question anything his country does smile

In my opinion that's called "idiocy" cause there are bad things in any country. It's also being "closeminded" and well... I can come up with loads of nice words for it.

Iran doesn't hate jews. They dislike israelis for their mureder of palestines I guess, but who doesn't? yikes

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TDH from your source as to the "fake" celebrations on 9/11

"And why not give the context of why some people might be happy. Perhaps Palestinians might like that the country that supplies weapons that kill them and supports the country that kills them took a hit. "

So, 'it didn't happen, it was a fake, it didn't happen--BUT IF IT DID, so what why not?'

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"i wouldn't count out the assissanation of behnzir bhuto, by the hands of americans either, if behnzir had succeeded, she would not maintain strong ties with america like musharaf has, in other words, she wouldn't be america's bitch like musharaf is, but she threatened that shady "alliance", which has brought nothing but more corruption and more terrorism in pakistan, the thing america was trying to do with this alliance was kill terrorism, but they introduced more, just like they did in iraq"

A whole freaking province of that country is practically Afghanistan but in name and it won't be tamed short of a gross act of cultural imperialism that is difficult since the roads are closed much of the year.  Any pakistani president would welcome American intervention in the Indian nuclear standoff.  And Bhutto was run out in part for being too nicey nice with her own clique of robber barons.  Notice who replaced her instantly within the movement?  Again you are very Americentric saying the world is messed up because of Amerikkka.

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Rwanda probably benefited from a lack of American and UN intervention.  How the hell can I say that? Because the UN was already there and being shot at and shelled, and having to keep it head down or else,  US forces would have been under Bill Clinton and we all know what good that's for.  They had to help themselves and the Tutsi RFP came in from Uganda and actually FOUGHT A WAR gasp but they fought it old school, they didn't communicate a message or escalate a conflict to the point of effective dialogue, they grabbed em by the nose and kicked them in the ass, they drove their enemies off the land like Patton kicked the Nazis out of Sicily, and the Hutu warlords had to flee the country.  And oddly enough, the Hutu didn't feel much like killing Tutsis with that Tutsi army standing around armed and pissed.  And that stopped the killing, and there wasn't a forty-year stalemate.

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Um TheYell, as I pointed out about that source... read it, think logicaly and... well dunno how you end up with THAT comment. As they said, jews were celebrating next to the crash... so geez man...

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>>Um TheYell, as I pointed out about that source... read it, think logicaly and... well dunno how you end up with THAT comment. As they said, jews were celebrating next to the crash... so geez man...<<

I end up with it because it was in the post, and it was an odd fit.  It meant as I said: "the Palestinians never celebrated 9/11--but if they had, so what?"  I'm well aware the Palestinians have a great fake news system, they just had a libel trial about it in France.

The joooooos eh?  Darn them joooooooz!

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94 (edited by Red_Rooster 28-May-2008 12:08:15)

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whine whine whine.... whine al day whine all night
whine whine whine.... they whine with al their might

wow there really is no reason for others to hate america. americans do everything on creating good in the world and sometimes it doesnt work the way we want it to. we think everyone in the world think free and openminded like we do ( except euros you guys just hate us for no apparent reason). like bush thought we could bring democracy to middle east but he doesnt know that the muslims dont want democracy. they'd rather be ruled by a dictator. but bush doesnt know that yet but i think the rest of the world does. thats what makes him a bad president. but anyway we do stuff on the hope that the world will be better.

95 (edited by Black_Wing 28-May-2008 12:15:27)

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hehe....the Dragon is asking someone to think logically ??  big_smile  owe, like you ?  roll

@ Manti ....  aaaahhhh

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Oh, it can talk big_smile A progress for the Black_Wing big_smile

I am a very logical person silly smile
And you know, questioning why things happen doesn't make you "intelectual light weight". It's common sense to question things. Not that you would know about it ofc.

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97 (edited by Freelancer 28-May-2008 12:36:07)

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"wow there really is no reason for others to hate america. americans do everything on creating good in the world and sometimes it doesnt work the way we want it to"

does selling weapons to iraq and iran so that they kill each other helps creating a good world?

"except euros you guys just hate us for no apparent reaso"

We DO NOT hate you!!! we just do not accept some excuses for you international politics.

"like bush thought we could bring democracy to middle east but he doesnt know that the muslims dont want democracy."

You have no right to choose for others.. and that is what USA have been done for along time, yet you defend freedom.. odd ins't it?

"but anyway we do stuff on the hope that the world will be better." You may belive in that, but that is far from the reality

"The master had to step in and kick some ass." master? lol

98 (edited by TheYell 04-Jun-2008 00:05:40)

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"does selling weapons to iraq and iran so that they kill each other helps creating a good world?"

Sure did.  Kept them busy for eight years killing each other.  When there was peace, they moved on to other neighbors.
BTW, this selling weapons to Iraq and Iran. 
In the 1st Gulf, that was shit load of Soviet weapons we turned into scrap metal.
I think you would see a shit load of Soviet weaps in the Iranian army as well......Chinese and French as well. 

We dont hate you either.  We just look on in disgust w/the Euro-elitist pacifist apologist backward logic.  All ills in the world are the "fault of the US" is a tired weak argument.

"You have no right to choose for others.. and that is what USA have been done for along time, yet you defend freedom.. odd ins't it?"

This is the best line of [8 letter word for foderol = NONSENSE] that Euro-Elitists use.
Most of these people are tribal in nature, very local.  Just like the US.  Most politics to the chagrin of you Euros are done at the local level......not national.  To have a republic style govt. w/a limited central govt. is not so over the top.
As long as you dont make the Federal Govt. a large Bureaucratic, top heavy, over bearing Goliath like most Socialist type Euro Govt.s.....and the way the US is leaning.

Yea... Master. big_smile 
Most run when their weak Euro-Leftist Uni-fed arguments are crushed by simple American Logic.

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for the record...if the Muslims didnt want a democracy then how is it the majority of the people in Iraq support the troops and vote for a new leader? hmm...did you ever think that maybe..just maybe Saddam and such other leaders are the ones choosing for others and not caring what they thought?

The regime over in Iraq and also in many other countries is about power for themelves. It has never been about making the nation a better place for their people. The people were being kiled by their own leaders and the US and other countries decided it was time to make a change for the better of those people and the world.

Did you know that around 75% of the troops we are fighting against over in Iraq are NOT from Iraq? they are actally from the surrounding countries. And we like the fact that they come over to fight us. Because we cant go into their country to fight them...it makes it convenient to kill them.

Europe has and always been at odds with the US ever since we gained freedom from Britain so i dont really expect it to change much to be honest. But typically Europe always had a balanced head on their shoulders and they probably still do...but then again the governments obviously doesnt agree with the people because they have sided us pretty much the whole way through.

Also, did you know that America was never the country that did "Crusades" and also go to Africa and other countries to take over and change the way of life? no....that was Europe go figure. Nothing against Europe cause i dont disagree with what you guys have done...but i think when you speak right now its a bit hypocritical seeing as your countries are FAR from perfect.

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Ripper....the Elitists think these people in the mid-East are animals and are better ruled under a dictator or other authoritarian Govt.  After all, under the Rule of the Euros as their "Lands" there was no problem as they ruled the land.

The US from its beginning has always been a constitutional Republic.

Europe followed after us....and it just gets their craw.
But, they are cultured
and we Americans are hill billy, meat eating, gun owning, weak American beer guzzling idiots.
I like it this way.  big_smile

Rwanda is a perfect example of the Mess Europe left in Africa.  .... Yet they look to America.  Go figure.

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