Topic: China dumps the dollar

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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/china-has-divested-97-percent-its-holdin



Obama is going to have to explain how spending more money than we have is a good policy now.

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For the record I am now buying food enmass...

Scary times coming upon us, and Democrats have no clue how bad they are going to take this on the chin

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3 (edited by Godwin's Law 04-Jun-2011 18:57:29)

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I'm going to be honest... I'm no longer scared by this threat from China.

The very article you cited mentions that, as of March 2011, China had $1.1 trillion in US treasury bonds, and sold down to $270 billion even before today.  The current move is just a sell-off of part of the last remaining funds.

In other words, if there was going to be a large-scale financial crisis as a result of the T-bond sell-off... it should have happened... 3 times...

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China can throw its weight around all it wants to. Their markets depend on ours. Crashing our economic system would be detrimental to theirs. Not immediately, but over time it would have mirrored catastrophic results.

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Is that supposed to mean "China won't hurt the US economy?"  If so, that's completely unrelated to this issue, because Flint is saying that's just happened.

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6 (edited by Arby3 04-Jun-2011 19:17:23)

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Don't [Mess] with Uncle Sam...

The inmates are running the asylum

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No, read the article. It's stating how china is dumping short term treasury bonds for long term ones. They are realizing we won't be out of this anytime soon, and are further securing their ownership of US debt by moving into long term assets. If anything, this strengthens our economy by providing a safety net on Chinese cash.

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The article shows they are reducing the long term treasuries as well... Aka, they are dropping the dollar in a controlled manner to try to save some of their investment.

How wonder Gietner has to buy treasuries with made up money

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oh and will anyone actually buy this trillion we need to have soon? >.>

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10 (edited by Godwin's Law 05-Jun-2011 02:15:42)

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> Arby3 wrote:

> No, read the article. It's stating how china is dumping short term treasury bonds for long term ones. They are realizing we won't be out of this anytime soon, and are further securing their ownership of US debt by moving into long term assets. If anything, this strengthens our economy by providing a safety net on Chinese cash.




> Einstein wrote:

> The article shows they are reducing the long term treasuries as well... Aka, they are dropping the dollar in a controlled manner to try to save some of their investment.

How wonder Gietner has to buy treasuries with made up money



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I may have misread, but I shall never admit being wrong! I'm ignorant American, and I need glasses. sad

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I think arby3 ment this:
"Until October, the Chinese were generally making up for their decreasing holdings in Treasury bills by increasing their holdings of longer-term U.S. Treasury securities. Thus, until October, China

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exactly, who's going to buy that stuff up now?

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14 (edited by Godwin's Law 05-Jun-2011 18:56:07)

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Well, I've got a few dollars in my bank account.  I may be able to take a T-bill or two!  smile

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15 (edited by [PW9]~KT~ 20-Jun-2011 04:17:04)

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America is no longer the superpower of the world... and havn't been for a very long time, China have got there act together, and have the work force to get anything done.  They are buying land like theres no tomorrow in northen australia heck there buying land anywere pretty much and building it up. And the fact that there own economy is secure enough that they can afford to buy america's debt that should say something to you americans lol.

That and the fact that china could have more than 1 million trained troops to any were on there border within 24 hours is a pretty impressive thing in its self... and there troops are well trained and very disicplined, more so than alot of american troops smile

so yes Arby3 i would be scared about china throwing there weight around wink if china wanted to [ ]
america's economy they could do it easily enough

Beans Beans everywere but not a fork to eat with.... yeah think about it!

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16 (edited by Godwin's Law 05-Jun-2011 19:40:41)

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With regards to troop deployments anywhere in the world, China hasn't yet overcome the issue of a blue water navy.

Anyway, please refer to the other thread on the question of the Chinese vs. US hegemony comparison...

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and Chuck Norris

The inmates are running the asylum

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a lot of CRA's want to give US a lower status now. Next crisis here we come. Maybe now Obama can save the entire planet with money from the Chinese.

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It is getting worse. The newest CBO warning about our debt is very interesting... could be 100% of our GDP if we dont institute cuts...

And then there is the pensions study which shows for the next 30 years everyones taxes has to rise $1500 a year ($1500 first year, $3000 next year, $4500 the following year) just to pay PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PENSIONS

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I would have asked for a link, but unfortunately, I have seen this elsewhere already. Al tough its very hard to predict the exact amount, most economists agree its an insane number.

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einstein!! how are ya ^^ ?

till the end of time..

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America needs to cut spending.

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The progressives insist such talk is a lie perpetrated by the Man!

Progressives argue

1.  We've had $400 billion deficits for 40 years, so why not forever?
2.  Figured as a %GDP, revenues are too low, just tax our way out
3.  Only massive spending can replace demand!
4.  Qualitative easing is NOT printing money, the Fed got it by giving banks IOUs against their required minimum depository reserves!

SO clearly you frothing rightwing freak, if we just consume profits and the safeguard deposits that guarantee our banking system, we'll kick the economy around in two or three years! And it will be a better economy cause we stopped those rich bastards from being the beneficiaries!  /s

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sarcasm?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13906274

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