Topic: Please reinstate the fixed market

As the number of players in the different galaxies keep decreasing, please lets try a round with some artificial market bids.

Either we have a fixed price like was tried in SD, or we can try more of a boundary system to help against extreme prices

Iron and food could range from 5 to 20
Octarine from 10 to 50
Endu from 10 to 50

As the market is now, with no volume and crazy spread, for anyone not in a wellorganized family or alot of time on their hands, makret is nearly useless!

LORD HELP OREGON

Re: Please reinstate the fixed market

I like the idea but iron seems a bit too low

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The details can be worked out and hcanged from round to round, we have to be careful tho, if the price is too high for buy or two low for sell, people might simply stop producing iron at all.. Its not ment as a way to substitute an balanced production, but to make market more reliable and usable

LORD HELP OREGON

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I think market isn't meant to be reliable and usable? That's why they even went through the trouble of adding a galactic event that blocks it entirely tongue

And it's not like it's that hard to make some reccies on the market. especially with these crazy spreads tongue

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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The crazy spreads is the problem tongue and the GE can still work, the problem is just that market nowadays is a joke due to the lack of players

LORD HELP OREGON

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yes indeed Noir, that was one of the better ideas... fixed market was good but must be fully thought through... this is very good Idea and needs to be fully investigated, will work in some Galaxies but not in others I feel...

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How am i gonna abuse crazy spreads with fixed market >:(

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

Re: Please reinstate the fixed market

They can't do a fixed market because of Torqez. Mods can't add resources/cash to their accounts anymore. I'm pretty sure thats how they did the fixed market

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well torqez is gone! let PS fix it, im sure he can wink

LORD HELP OREGON

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Parrot ran the market that round and I had the interface option removed. Ps can do just about anything. Will have to check with him.

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Right, so what are we waiting for?  Can we get this going?  Any other feedback?

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Its not fair to the players that we get a worse market cause torqez was finally caught!

But i see good reactions for my idea so far smile

LORD HELP OREGON

12 (edited by ~ Forever ~ 13-May-2011 22:45:28)

Re: Please reinstate the fixed market

> [PW9]~KT~ wrote:

> Parrot ran the market that round and I had the interface option removed. Ps can do just about anything. Will have to check with him.




can he beat this guy in a 100\200 metre race?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ato_Boldon yikes

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Re: Please reinstate the fixed market

TERRIBLE IDEA!

Socialist intervention in market economics only creates unsustainable economic systems, encouraging inefficient productivity.  Any centralized price planning system will inevitably diverge from what natural markets would charge, driving the system into inevitable resource shortages.

In addition, you can't control all markets.  If the legal method to exchange is controlled, illegal markets will inevitably take its place, creating a completely uncontrolled industry alongside the currently existing legitimate market.

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Oh, wait... this isn't the Politics forum.  Nevermind!

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Re: Please reinstate the fixed market

Iron and food could range from 5 to 20

food would cost 5.00?
and how does this work? atificial bids so when the round starts everyone can buy endu instead of it getting locked at 50.00 for the first 16 weeks?

wouldn't this effectively remove the need to produce certain things? aswell how would that effect storing cash on the market, and market blocks durring large wars.

i think this may work if the market price max/min is changed but as for atificial bids i think that would effectively take apart the teamwork that we all strive for.

IMO the market is much more beneficial for smaller families. yes they have less to work with but your working on a feild thats filled with larger bids from big families. this makes it easier to trade your smaller portions and turn a profit that is significant to your smaller family.

if your having trouble getting your trades to go through and there is a large gap the obvious answer is to cut the gap down. that will make people more willing to trade. or if you watch the market shift throughout the day you can capitalize on the overall shift in the price.

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> Noir wrote:

> Its not fair to the players that we get a worse market cause torqez was finally caught!



lol, im pretty sure stefan was notified when it happend i think, hence if he had done it before he woulda been gone earlier tongue

although i see you need an excuse to have finally realized how you lost eco battles with him.

So hold onto that Noir u da man! smile

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17 (edited by XMenResurection 26-May-2011 08:26:55)

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Bad idea. I make a lot of profits at the market in these days.

I think for new players a liberated market is more interesting than a fixed market.
They can play around with the market a little bit and some of them get attracted and maybe stay to learn more of the game.

As well one of the great things in IC is/was the market. If everything becomes predictable, where is the fun in it???
Its much more interesting if you dont know what happens to the market. Sure for the big experienced families with bankers that make 10+ million gc per tick
a fixed market is great. however it will let them dominate even more the game. How new players should be attracted like that???


To me, a fixed market would make IC less attractive to play...






intervention in market economics leads to crises like the finiancial crisis and the euro crisis etc...

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> XMenResurection wrote:


intervention in market economics leads to crises like the finiancial crisis and the euro crisis etc...

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Ye when EU fixed the price for milk, many farmers turned to milk productors and produced tons of cheap milk to sell it to EU.

as a result, EU had to destroy all this excess milk, they could have given it to poor countries but that would have killed the prices..
all these cow farts destroyed the ozone and now the sun burns the australians (poor Parrot)


What would happen if there is a fixed market?
Ppl that like math will calculate the best strategy and do it rounds after rounds.
U can be sure that Noir will make a fam with 10 Quantams and 4 attackers.
They will produce only endo or oct according to the best benefit and will laugh at pax with their spells to kill pop, reduce cf prod, food prod and destroy iron.

Remove a TAG point from Noir for this bad idea

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Filthy socialists

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@Aro

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Hating socialism isn't a one man job.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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If the natural market leads to abuse of market power, then we should intervene

LORD HELP OREGON