And we will trade them out. A list of systems has already been posted in our forum for players to drop defenses on them.

Just know, that just because you are going to trade out doesnt actually change anything at this point. The whole reason your fam is gonna get smash by us is cause you couldnt help but run your mouths at us from the very beginning as if we dont have honor and all the other bull that was stated. Even so far as to name specific players....

wait wut, why would i trade out planets if i'm still gonna get smashed. are you that easy to lure into exposing yourself?
What you just stated shows how it isn't about the planets you owe us. You yourself say it is because we ran our mouth. Well let me refer to the first page of this thread again... Aleph actually made a polite post showing polite msges he sent, until the point he was ignored in chat where he did get mad.
However, judging by the msges he got, he had reason to get mad.

quote:
Week 30, 22
Ok we have lot of planets in ur 'core' note that it was when ur fam was supposed to be big, now u are no more in some of these systems. These planets we got them when we attacked 91 that was farming you for days. I didnt hear you complaining when we entered ur core to kick their ass, 3 weeks later u want to make plts finding a paper.

You have two choices:
-we keep them and we pnap
-we give back but we cancel and take much more
Signed, Guapo of Rigo Tovar (4702)

and now are you even gonna claim we were first to be disrespectful? then you gotta be kidding yourself.
In fact, my first post, which was clearly meant to be disrespectful, was a response to earlier posts in this thread that i quoted in my 7th post (post #46 in this thread). I did not start running my mouth. You did. Just because my fam fell down in size does not mean you can go disrespect us and when we contest your remarks you call it "running our mouths". That is just idiotic.

@HJ
that's easy talking when your the family about to farm instead of getting farmed. The family your about to war has a mere 32% of your total NW, in normal situation you wouldn't even be able to attack them. That should say enough imo

What, do you call that disrespectful? Him stating people shouldn't nap you? Judging by how he didn't get a clear and meaningful response to his remark about getting back the planets, I do not think that was disrespectful at all, rather a bit impulsive. Threats about how you are going to rape us because we want our planets back, when we do not accept a pnap without swap outs, THAT is being disrespectful.

If you get ignored or get msges back like aleph did, then it very well is.

Imo the best solution would have been a swapout, 02 does not loose anything in pcount and nap is upheld as 01 wants. No need to farm and what not.

Swap outs was just a bluff amar, they knew we wouldn't accept it and just offered it to make us look worse. Hydro's post up on this page proves that.

can you please stop contradicting yourself. stating stuff like "stop making comments with no proof" followed up by the rest of the post is just idiotic.

right because my fam would've stayed below 35% for that long. That's just a stupid statement. Everyone knows how easy it is to wait for a fam to get into 35% range, especially if we are only 32% to start with. A couple jumps in a small fam and their NW is easily lifted above the % you need...

But that is not the point of what i meant by contradicting yourself. The point was your 2 line texts are filled with shit. you first ask me to provide proof when you yourself are not providing any. I, on the other hand, am actually taking time to form decent arguments, even though they lack proof according to your view that dismisses every bit of proof i give on the hand of it putting you in a negative perspective.
The fact that whatever i write is not proof in your eyes because you believe otherwise, does not mean it is not proof at all.

Dude, i have quoted posts in this thread that show proof. are you really to blind to see proof when it's in front of your eyes? or are you just choosing to ignore it like you ignore to change your 2 liner posts into decent posts. post #54 and post #46 both contain quotes taken from either posts from your fam or msges aleph posted. maybe reread those posts because it seems like you haven't and have just blatantly posted how "stupid" i am and how i do not provide any "proof"

From aleph's primary reaction it was already clear that he wanted those planets and wouldn't accept anything else.

I quote from AA:
09:02    AA    lol Aleph
09:02    AA    your a man on a mission

therefore, it was already clear that the option to pnap would not be accepted and that Aleph would continue to bug you about the planets.
Now let me ask you, why isn't there an option to trade out planets up there? why wasn't there an option to trade them out even before we started running our mouth? Kollop's initial post only states those 2 things you said in #71. Nothing about swap-outs, planet trades, or anything alike.
What does this mean?
A) you couldn't read aleph and thought he'd accept a pnap, which i doubt as you would've just offered swap outs if you didn't care about the planets nor about farming us.
B) you could read aleph, you knew he wouldn't accept pnap, there was no option to do swap-outs or planet trades and you were only out to find an excuse to rape us.

Now you have even added a new, sad excuse to your list: us running our mouths.
Why is this excuse invalid as well? Your fam yourself became offensive and disrespectful and threatened to farm us, instead of offering planet trades. now you don't go saying "we would've offered planet trades had you guys not started this thread" because i am sure you would have just said so in this thread, as that would've just made aleph look bad and made you guys look like an incredibly jolly bunch of guys that someone should ALWAYS sign naps with.
You didn't however and proved just how agressive, offensive and disrespectful you are and how you were out to farm us.

Rising down, language please