bankers don't do portal hits? usually if im banker i do retakes/taking off an attacker, let him with the nice military bonus do the attacking.

but agreed, maybe a formula that was different for each unit attacking a different unit. like making soldiers attacking soldiers nearly equal, its hard to explain

yeah the ratio is way off and needs changed tbh

metrex don't be an ass

> Noir wrote:

> -30% attack halves your strenth

2 vs 7 further enhances it, military effect is somehwat squared

notice the defender has -30% defense too, so this doesnt count

2 vs 7 is like stones vs bullets, maybe soldiers attack should be raised to 4, it wouldnt affect too much to the current setup

^true that, my bad

> Rin wrote:

> "notice the defender has -30% defense too, so this doesnt count"

wat?

It shouldnt, but I am actually confused about how this affects

the explanation in here:

the guide reads
Soldier
Soldiers are needed to conquer planets, but they can only fight on the ground.    
Ground attack: 2
Ground defence: 7

1st sentence is FALSE, soldiers CANNOT conquer planets, they can only defend, but just let me do some calcs

10 attacking soldiers = 20 att points, -30% attacking --> 14 att points
10 defending soldiers = 70 def points, -30% defending --> 49 def points

according to this, for 1 def soldier dying 3.5 att soldiers die, 
2 -> 7
3 -> 10.5
10 -> 35
100 -> 350
306 (my example) -> 1071 and NOT 21000 soldiers like I lost

So....I still think the formula is bugged    
if not, then please Noir or anybody with a good knowledge about this explains how can it be, does it work like I calculated?

So?

"This happened when attakcing another banker who has 1/3 of my fleet (as much yikes) and i know it by NW."

Proof?

yeah that ratio does look stupid its more than max killed ur soldiers.

I have inbox saved in notepads (I do it always cause leader gets too much mailtraffic), the msgs I sent to ariana when it happened:

Week 37, 15, to Koning of Amar (4709)

The final phase, groundfight Image
21000 attacking soldiers ate lead from the defenders
0 attacking droids malfunctioned
306 soldiers died in the fight to defend the planet

attacking Mindaugas! wtf?? my soldiers are dumb or what? this is crazy this has to be a bug

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(note Mindaugas was a banker in 4717)

Week 33, 15, to Koning of Amar (4709)

25161 attacking soldiers ate lead from the defenders
0 attacking droids malfunctioned
367 soldiers died in the fight to defend the planet
0 droids failed in their program to defend the planet
0 soldiers died on the planet they were stationed to defend
0 stationed droids failed in their program to defend the planet

Defender win!

Attacking GengisKan with 95k soldiers !!

wtf? how many soldiers does he have then?
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Same, GengisKahn was 4717 main banker

PS should have a look at the code.

> twosidedeath wrote:

> does the 15% maximum loss happen for the attacker? i thought this was only for the defender. as for how many you lost compared to the attacker, i would assume on top for the att/deff ratio of a soldier there is still a good chance you attacked with less ground then he had.

he had no more ground than me, sure, but even in that case, the battle report would show something like 10k att loses to 5k def loses, or something like that, and not 21k to 300 

lol 2:7 means it would be more like 14k to 4k at the exact 100k soldiers to 100k soldiers. if he had 150k and you sent 100k then it would be even more drastic at 21k to 4k. now you add in the -30% attack meaning he looses less... so were lookin at 21k to 2.5k.   these are estimates but no, the numbers look right i disagree this is NOT a bug.