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Have you read up on the wikileaks articles? In between all of the junk there was this little pearl about the Israeli-Palestinian peace conferences. Turns out the Palistinians were willing to give up practically everything for peace and a place to live but that Israel was effectively stalling and ignoring the peace offerings.

Eye opener isn't it.

Now who are the civilized people, the Israeli? Haha yeah right, they don't want peace it seems, they just want to throw cluster bombs on civilians to get free space so they can colonize the ghost towns that once belonged to dead Palestinians...

US support of Israel should've stopped ages ago. However it will never stop because there just are too many powerful lobby groups who have (financial) interests in Israel. A president who stops supporting Israel won't last long: it's political suicide and the politicians know it.

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>The IDF is clearly uneasy with the prospect of the Egyptian military being an adversary.

Maybe thats because Egypt ist armed to the hilt with western weapons

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"Turns out the Palistinians were willing to give up practically everything for peace and a place to live but that Israel was effectively stalling and ignoring the peace offerings. "

DUH that is called 'right of return' and if applied to any other country, like say Norway, it would mean Americans would run your government forever from the inside.

Because it says anybody who felt they had to leave Country X has a right to return as a citizen of country X.

and their kids

and their grandkids

and their greatgrandkids

etc.

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Heh the real reason this palestine-israel conflict continues is the billions in aid paid to countries to keep it at a "low boil". Even Mubarak who is seen to the US to be key to peace talks stands to gain much from a continuing conflict.

Also, the west's decision to displace people back in the 40s could only be duplicated for a full "resolution". After a generation has grown up on those lands this really isn't sufficient. If palestine can swallow their pride and accept peace at this point, that would certainly be "being the better man". It's really a dreadful situation. But undeniable that the conditions in Palestine are much worse than those in Egypt. Really, we topple Iraq for gasing Kurds, but allow israel to continue to violate human rights in palestine daily. Not only that, but we fund it. Insane.

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As soon as the PLO got some land and some population under their recognized authority they started kidnapping and torturing their own people.  PLO = PA = Arab Mafia.  Israel, schmizrael, the reason Gaza didn't become the world capital of call centers and offshore banking was Arafat's rape of his own people.  And the West went along with it because PA promised to be "peace partners". They gave bullshit in the required place and time and legitimized western diplomatic initiatives. 

That didn't do crap for "Palestinians" aka "permanent refugees no Arab kingdoms want", so they went with pro-Iranian terrorist groups like Hamas.  Because Hamas promised to rule without raping Palestinians, being too holy to permit sex drugs & rock & roll, and making holy war on Jews: the reform ticket.

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Muby is out

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Reuters says, "Not going" ??!! yikes

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he's coming..... he's coming!!!! aaaahhhh!!!! owww yeah??..

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still there.

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He fails at leaving!  tongue

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lol yep, scratch that.

Really, I think it is important for him to secure a legacy in Egypt's history and not be looked upon as a failed ruler in a country with a wealth of strong rulers in the past. I judge this by his speech.

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they say he's gone.

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He was seen 'leaving' by heli earlier today.

And now it seems the military has taken over.

Makes me wonder who was flying that chopper. A genuine military coup by generals and shit. It's been a while!

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Mubarak's probably on his way to Belgium to assume the premiership

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I hate to sound like a complete pervert (again) but seriously, given the choice of entering cheap hot women in sharm el sheik... or entering belgium...

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It's now time for Mullah Light...

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Maybe he's on his way to cut off berlusconi's head

"Fk my neice, willya?" 
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I'd put my money on Berlusconi!

At least he's got the wits to compensate for being a corrupt criminal mutha by providing bikini bimbos on tv. That's fair policy.

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> [TI] ZoZferatu [Pw9] wrote:

> That's fair policy.

Not when they ought to be sitting on my face X(

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I wonder if the ellections really will happen and if not, who mubarak II will be.

What is the stance of the army on religion btw? Cause this could go any direction.

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the army has had a hand in every Egyptian president for 60 years, all this is hardly a revolution?

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> Little Paul wrote:

> I wonder if the ellections really will happen and if not, who mubarak II will be.

What is the stance of the army on religion btw? Cause this could go any direction.


Last I heard the Egyptian army chased the Jews into the desert for 40 years.

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it has been reported that Mubarak has had a stroke

i think its a case of 9mm brain hemmorhage, and those can be contagious yikes

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maybe he turned zombie and they had to put him down? zombie killing is self defence killing

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