tell that to the thousands who play facebook apps and games like evony.

Evony is a joke. I played that for a while and its worse than IC. In Evony there is no rule preventing someone 20x your size from destroying you utterly. That happened to me and thats why i dont play that shit game anymore.

@Warhammer: dont blame 'farming' on people leaving. Josh is right, IC is outdated. I ran out of mercy a long time ago. People broke NAPs on me and worse many times over the years.  Did they care? Do you really think they lost any sleep over it? Dont think so. You get in my way and then im destroying you. Its a war game. Thats how this works.

Hmmm ok I think I will:

[15:28] <&Arganon> are there one set of rules that applies for you
[15:28] <@NinjaJesus> What stops them from clearing it?
[15:28] <&Arganon> and another set for the rest of us
[15:28] <&Arganon> ok
[15:28] <@NinjaJesus> Has nothing to do with rules, it is common sense
01[15:28] <&Nolio> its just retarded
01[15:28] <&Nolio> for you to be hitting small fams
[15:28] <@NinjaJesus> Clear 93
[15:28] <&Arganon> i clear my share
[15:28] <&Arganon> i gain the fam planets
[15:28] <&Arganon> odd
[15:28] <@NinjaJesus> Clear threats
[15:28] <@NinjaJesus> before shares
[15:28] <&Arganon> you dont want planets ?
[15:28] <&Arganon> yeah sure
[15:29] <@NinjaJesus> You can always clear those shares with 88 later
[15:29] <&Arganon> while i fight 93
[15:29] <&Arganon> most fams
01[15:29] <&Nolio> I'd rather you clear the ppl who can actually do something =p
[15:29] <&Arganon> will go under the size limit
[15:29] <&Arganon> ergo
[15:29] <&Arganon> i cant take them planets once we are done with 93
[15:29] <&Arganon> NICE PLAN MAN
[15:29] <@NinjaJesus> It is the opposite, dum dum
01[15:29] <&Nolio> so don't
[15:29] <@NinjaJesus> Instead
01[15:29] <&Nolio> nothing wrong with not farming
[15:29] <@NinjaJesus> You are hitting them for like 12 planets
[15:29] <@NinjaJesus> And slowing them down
[15:29] <&Arganon> not farmign nolio
[15:29] <@NinjaJesus> Where if you didn't hit them and waited
01[15:29] <&Nolio> its farming
[15:29] <&Arganon> share cleaning
[15:30] <@NinjaJesus> They would still be growing
01[15:30] <&Nolio> pfft
01[15:30] <&Nolio> that's bs
[15:30] <@NinjaJesus> Go fight 4193
01[15:30] <&Nolio> matter of fact
[15:30] <&Arganon> i will
[15:30] <@NinjaJesus> Their main attacker deleted
[15:30] <@NinjaJesus> and their other attacker is blocked
[15:30] <@NinjaJesus> So its all bankers
[15:30] <&Arganon> ouch
[15:30] <@NinjaJesus> Its your kind of fight
[15:30] <&Arganon> they are fucked
01[15:30] <&Nolio> as long as you are farming fams at the bottom of the ranks
01[15:30] <&Nolio> don't ask me for upkeep
[15:30] <&Arganon> lol
[15:30] <&Arganon> no
[15:30] <&Arganon> and nolio
[15:30] <&Arganon> dont ask me for planets
[15:30] <&Arganon> rofl
[15:30] <@NinjaJesus> lol atleast he's attacking
01[15:30] <&Nolio> I won't

Nolio, Just admit it the only issue you have is that our allies are people that you do not like.  There is no farming involved, it is clearing planets in their banker systems that the leader of 10 has now said that he supports and that they'll be used.  If this was any other family as allies, you'd have no issue with it.  None of our attackers will hit anything besides those.

I dont see any attack from us on 10 this or last year, we are trying to clear them from our bankers systems, how are we farming them? we cant even hit them unless they hit first... we are just forcing them to leave us alone x(

I don't like 4409. I have told them that. I have said that. I have no problems telling it how it is.

But this has nothing to do with who our allies are. The principal of the #1 and #2 fams having to clear one attacker from a 16th ranked fam out of 19 fams is pathetic. Regardless of who our allies are, its lame and you know it josh. That's the reason I didn't want to be allied to 09, because they love to do that kind of stuff.

And I am fully aware that 10 made the first move by exploring into their "core", but then what is the move for 09 to make? Diplomacy? Ok cool, hydro says he tried, it failed. Next move? Call in ally support? really? Is it that hard to drop nw and clear a threat? Is it that hard to just...build more defenses and blow up his planets when he jumps fleet? Is it that hard to simply just op his portals?

I mean seriously. If the #1 fam is THAT threatened by a fam that small then they suck and don't deserve to be #1. But this is no surprise to me, their are people in that fam who are known for IA'ing, using the same small attacker tactic, account sitting, deleting, etc. etc. I don't really care what they do. Its what the fam I'm in does. And once my fam starts to take on their traits, then I need to separate myself from the situation. Because whether or not its farming, its lame. Once upon a time when you were the best fam, best alliance, best attacker, whatever, you'd accept all challenges. This is just...a disgrace =p

> AdriusAvangion wrote:

> Nolio hates our allys. Nolio hates half the people in our family. Nolio hates everything and everyone pretty much. What happened with 10 is just a lame excuse for him to quit and give up. This isnt about honor or morals. Its about Nolio not wanting to bother with attacking this round.

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im pretty sure you've deleted for worse scenarios like having a set date not go your way.... lol isnt that what happend a few rounds ago and CS deleted right? what was that excuse to not fight? because the day was wrong to fight? lol

and AA there is a thread of your retirement in Community... you've wanted to leave plenty times over and now you are preaching about quitters? lol

I think people should lay off Nolio, regardless of his views. He states them and seems to stand by them even if everyone else thinks they are misguided.

I think he has some valid points - but I wish he'd give his family another go

i dont think the planet count is the problem AA.... lol its more of his morals and the fams morals are clashing

LOL

this has evolved into the Nolio thread

what is your point?

> Tracy Jordan wrote:

> lol no it isn't Metrex.  The only issue is who our allies are.  He had no problem with us having 97 clear small attackers expoed into our core by people  so that we didn't have to drop the nw of an attacker when they had some low enough already.  There is no reason for someone to kill fleet if there is someone in the alliance small enough to do it and nearby already.

Not true. That is all.