Arganon, All you did all round was whine, whine, and whine like you are right now.  Your strategies are by far the worst I've ever seen except for maybe Hummy's flea thing. 

I jumped one time to that nw and that was option B to the plan that both our allies leader and the people who were in chat thought would be best.  We had no banker shares with 4191 so staying small would have done no good.  We believed that 91 was just trying to bluff the use of 90's savings to make us jump and waste ours as a persuasion for us to not jump in when 4190 would cancel on 4197.  So the plan was jump you to 2 mil incase they did not jump and wanted to clear us still if we didn't jump and to watch for any use of their resources and if need be then jump a big person.  It was strategically covering all the bases there.

You talk about your thing with op wars and blah blah blah but you can't use the same strategy all the time, you have to judge it on the players you have, the fam setup, and what your savings are.

You were the one who when 4185 cancelled wanted to spend 1/5th of our savings on jumping you to 1 mil agents when we were already slightly outsaved as it was. 

We had to rejump you in every fight we had like 4-5 times because you had no clue how to protect your fighters and droids.

And what happened every time that I said we would use you or BC as our main attacker in a fight?  I'd have every irc user in the fam except for Valhalla telling me to jump and not let them get killed by having you do it.  Hell I went without sleep a hell of a lot more than i'd have liked.  I wished there was another attacker there that could be trusted to not [be or to be] things up but it was all inexperienced attackers and complete idiots like yourself.

Oh and about "A unfair leader who love to blame others for things wich aint their fault or even HES fault."

That is interesting because I believe I won best leader for last round by a mile =o

OMG...arganon...can u rmb how u tried to take over leadership and no one supported u??

and how about your drafting thread where no one joined your fam?HAHAHA

just shows how much people think of u

"Arganon, All you did all round was whine, whine, and whine like you are right now.  Your strategies are by far the worst I've ever seen except for maybe Hummy's flea thing."

Why ?
Mybe cos my fleet was dispanding halftime cos bank was afk or you refused to aid me inuf ?
One had to almost beg on once knees to get the needed aid ? 
In a normal fam you dont have to explain why you need aid as you have respect inuf for players to send what they want and send upceep to the fam without the team even having to ask.
Not in your fam you got to sit in irc and beg for 5 minutes to get aid.

"I jumped one time to that nw and that was option B to the plan that both our allies leader and the people who were in chat thought would be best."

Dont lie h4e you did that twice not once !:S
I said from the start that if the foes was to strong go opwar on them to drop their income heavily after wich we could jump fleets and rape em if only we could deffend the share while waiting but as ursualy you never listen to any good advice I gave for the fams sake.

"We had no banker shares with 4191 so staying small would have done no good."
YOU DAMN FOOL I HAD OVER 60 SYSTEM SHARE !!!!
5 full systems and 5 partaly filled ! (by not jumping me we lost somewhere inbetween 200-300 planets.)

"We believed that 91 was just trying to bluff the use of 90's savings to make us jump and waste ours as a persuasion for us to not jump in when 4190 would cancel on 4197."

Lee managed to get you to WASTE our stash on ONE fleet YOURS while we could have used that stash to kill 91s income after wich we could have rejumped all attacker fleets cleared my share and starting to mass raid their bankers or clear their attackers off their core and nick it by using small attackers.

"So the plan was jump you to 2 mil incase they did not jump and wanted to clear us still if we didn't jump and to watch for any use of their resources and if need be then jump a big person.  It was strategically covering all the bases there."

YOU COVERD NOONES ASS BUT YOUR OWN ! (selfish people makes me sick!)
You coverd NOTHING if you had NOT jumped to 11 mill but to around 6 and spend the rest for ground for the fam annd deffensive opforces for all but the oppers and wizzies in the fam we would have been hard to hit whatever plan they would have used after wich you begin saving and trading for the opjumps.

"You talk about your thing with op wars and blah blah blah but you can't use the same strategy all the time, you have to judge it on the players you have, the fam setup, and what your savings are.

The changes in the games makes that the best possible combo against strong fams that remains.
You need to adapt your strategies to the games off TODAY not how it used to work.
I can make my strats work with whatever playermaterial I got compared with your leaderstyke wich lead to 1/3 of the fam going inactive cos lack of support.

"You were the one who when 4185 cancelled wanted to spend 1/5th of our savings on jumping you to 1 mil agents when we were already slightly outsaved as it was."

If we are outsaved the method to get on top of things is strong deffence and strong opforves to reduce their income and let them wear down their fleets against our ground wich then once we have opped them into the ground and jump new fleets means we counterattack very hard and they cannot respond to that becouse they lack income. 

"We had to rejump you in every fight we had like 4-5 times because you had no clue how to protect your fighters and droids."

My task is NOT to deffend fighters or droids.
My task is to waste foes fleets and take planets.
Ever tryed to acctually attack ?
without doing pis on every damn planets ?
Do you know you CAN attack without oppiong ?
HAHAHAHAHA

"And what happened every time that I said we would use you or BC as our main attacker in a fight?  I'd have every irc user in the fam except for Valhalla telling me to jump and not let them get killed by having you do it."

If people think that winning a war is about jumping ONE guy ok let them waste their round if they like I wont no more cos ill be dammed if im staying in one more fam you are in.

"Hell I went without sleep a hell of a lot more than i'd have liked.  I wished there was another attacker there that could be trusted to not [botch] things up but it was all inexperienced attackers and complete idiots like yourself."

You know the proof of beeing a bad leader is the unability to delegate so there you even admit you are a poor leader without realizing it.
You talk to the players to find able players and hand out tasks.
You let all use what abilities they got to improve the fam cos we did have able people but they didnt get any space in the fam runned by the despod h4e.

"Oh and about "A unfair leader who love to blame others for things wich aint their fault or even HES fault."
That is interesting because I believe I won best leader for last round by a mile =o"

Easy to fool people not in our fam or allies fam what would happen if our players and 97 players decided would that give the same ressult do you think ?
I think not !

h4e just got served!

You've just got to skim any of argan00bs posts Lee. You know what half of it will be so you just read the other half

You hid pretty well last round when i ran your fleet down and busted your portals for the 1.5 days i had fleet Argie

Arganon, end this crap.

dont count 4406 out quite yet.

Done !
Talking to fools is as meaningfull as talking to a wall so with this post this subject is over and done with.

I think you all suck and are all n00bs

""Oh and about "A unfair leader who love to blame others for things wich aint their fault or even HES fault."
That is interesting because I believe I won best leader for last round by a mile =o"

Easy to fool people not in our fam or allies fam what would happen if our players and 97 players decided would that give the same ressult do you think ?
I think not !"

Pretty sure everyone, or most people in our alliance voted for h4e as best leader in the eor voting.

WiLd is bacccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!