Topic: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

(Adapted from Chapter 27, Section 5 of /Human Action/ by Ludwig von Mises; all errors original.)

In eighteenth-century France the saying /laissez faire, laissez passer/ was the formula into which some of the champions of the cause of liberty compressed their program. Their aim was the establishment of the unhampered market society. In order to attain this end they advocated the abolition of all laws preventing more industrious and more efficient people from outdoing less industrious and less efficient competitors and restricting the mobility of commodities and of men. It was this that the famous maxim was designed to express.

In our age of passionate longing for government omnipotence the formula laissez faire is in disrepute. Public opinion now considers it a manifestation both of moral depravity and of the utmost ignorance.

As the interventionist sees things, the alternative is "automatic forces" or "conscious planning." It is obvious, he implies, that to rely upon automatic processes is sheer stupidity. No reasonable man can seriously recommend doing nothing and letting things go as they do without interference on the part of purposive action. A plan, by the very fact that it is a display of conscious action, is incomparably superior to the absence of any planning. Laissez faire is said to mean: Let the evils last, do not try to improve the lot of mankind by reasonable action.

This is utterly fallacious talk. The argument advanced for planning is entirely derived from an impermissible interpretation of a metaphor. It has no foundation other than the connotations implied in the term "automatic" which it is customary to apply in a metaphorical sense for the description of the market process. Automatic, says the /Concise Oxford Dictionary/, means "unconscious, unintelligent, merely mechanical." Automatic, says /Webster's Collegiate Dictionary/, means "not subject to the control of the will, ... performed without active thought and without conscious intention or direction." What a triumph for the champion of planning to play this trump card!

The truth is that the alternative is not between a dead mechanism or a rigid automatism on one hand and conscious planning on the other hand. The alternative is not plan or no plan. The question is whose planning? Should each member of society plan for himself, or should a benevolent government alone plan for them all? The issue is not /automatism versus conscious action/; it is /autonomous action of each individual versus the exclusive action of the government/. It is /freedom versus government omnipotence/.

Laissez faire does not mean: Let soulless mechanical forces operate. It means: Let each individual choose how he wants to cooperate in the social division of labor; let the consumers determine what the entrepreneurs should produce. Planning means: Let the government alone choose and enforce its rulings by the apparatus of coercion and compulsion.

Under laissez faire, says the planner, it is not those goods which people "really" need that are produced, but those goods from the sale of which the highest returns are expected. It is the objective of planning to direct production toward the satisfaction of the "true" needs. But who is to decide what the "true" needs are?

Thus, for instance, Professor Harold Laski, the former chairman of the British Labor Party, would determine as the objective of the planned direction of investment "that the use of the investor's savings will be in housing rather than in cinemas." It is beside the point whether or not one agrees with the professor's view that better houses are more important than moving pictures. It is a fact that the consumers, in spending part of their money for admission to the movies, have made another choice. If the masses of Great Britain, the same people whose votes swept the Labor Party into power, were to stop patronizing the moving pictures and to spend more for comfortable homes and apartments, profit-seeking business would be forced to invest more in building homes and apartment houses and less in the production of expensive pictures. It was Mr. Laski's desire to defy the wishes of the consumers and to substitute his own will for that of the consumers. He wanted to do away with the democracy of the market and to establish the absolute rule of the production tsar. Perhaps he believed that he was right from a higher point of view, and that as a superman he was called upon to impose his own valuations on the masses of inferior men. But then he ought to have been frank enough to say so plainly.

All this passionate praise of the supereminence of government action is but a poor disguise for the individual interventionist's /self-deification/. The great god State is a great god only because it is expected to do exclusively what the individual advocate of interventionism wants to see achieved. Only that plan is genuine which the individual planner fully approves. All other plans are simply counterfeit. In saying "plan" what the author of a book on the benefits of planning has in mind is, of course, his own plan alone. He does not take into account the possibility that the plan which the government puts into practice may differ from his own plan. The various planners agree only with regard to their rejection of laissez faire, i.e., the individuals' discretion to choose and to act. They entirely disagree with regard to the choice of the unique plan to be adopted. To every exposure of the manifest and incontestable defects of interventionist policies the champions of interventionism react in the same way. These faults, they say, were the results of spurious interventionism; what we are advocating is good interventionism, not bad interventionism. And, of course, good interventionism is the professor's own brand.

Laissez faire means: Let the common man choose and act; do not force him to yield to a dictator.

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2 (edited by Phoenix Mailer 15-Aug-2010 12:27:57)

Re: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

free market is a joke. There had never been real free market in the real world. "laissez-faire" is not what free market is supposed to mean. Free market means honest competition,  "laissez-faire" is far from being honest. you see there is always a trick with freedom - does freedom mean free to do whatever you want to among other things restricting the freedom of other people?

to put it short - what is important in the market is honest competition not freedom to abuse the participants that is why an oversite over market is required unfortunately governments intervention is also always about abusing the participants and not ensuring honest competition. We need the government to protect the market from abuses not to govern the market

Re: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

doesn't always work that way Phoenix. although I will say that the US market is close to a fair market, meaning the companies can change prices at will and basically "bid" for the customers attention and for them to buy, it also means that a market who lowers the quality of the product can drastically lower prices and gain more customers, while forcing other companies to remain where they are or lower their prices, and then find themselves losing money and losing jobs and etc.

Such is the price of 'free' market

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Re: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

Phoenix Mailer: "you see there is always a trick with freedom - does freedom mean free to do whatever you want to among other things restricting the freedom of other people?"

It's impossible to restrict another's freedom without committing some sort of aggression against their person or property.

"to put it short - what is important in the market is honest competition not freedom to abuse the participants that is why an oversite over market is required unfortunately governments intervention is also always about abusing the participants and not ensuring honest competition."

And who decides what is "honest" competition and what is not? Exactly what makes "dishonest" competition? The terms you use are so arbitrary, I doubt that any real definition exists at all. Whomsoever satisfies consumer demands the best and has competitive advantage over other producers is "fair" and "honest" no matter how you see it. What you advocate inevitably translates into protecting one producer or group of producers from more efficient producers, which doesn't confer any benefit to the market at all.

Remember that consumers and producers are one in the same, the acts of consumption and production are merely different stages of individual action in the market. Therefore, it follows that if the "advantage" is held by all, then everyone loses in the end; not just in their capacities as consumers and producers, but in the supply of products. After all, the most efficient are prevented from outshining the less efficient.

By the way, it's curious that you would call for government oversight of the market, while at the same time denouncing government as an inefficient means of regulating market activity.

Personally, I see the market as a living, breathing /process/, one which possesses all the same emergent properties of nature; spontaneous order, the harmonizing of interests, and self-correcting. It is chaotic only insofar as the process is disturbed or interrupted, such as by extra-market forces like government. Natural disaster, accidents, and war also have this effect on the market, yet they can all be recovered from (and quickly) if the market is simply left alone.

It is, and always has been, government that incites and prolongs human suffering the most, compared to all other sources of discomfort.

Listos: "although I will say that the US market is close to a fair market, meaning the companies can change prices at will and basically "bid" for the customers attention and for them to buy, it also means that a market who lowers the quality of the product can drastically lower prices and gain more customers, while forcing other companies to remain where they are or lower their prices, and then find themselves losing money and losing jobs and etc."

If you are suggesting that producers aim for the lowest costs possible without regard to consumer input on quality, you're sorely mistaken. Although it is a general rule that people want to buy as cheaply as possible, there is such a thing as consumers willing to pay /more/ due to a perceived benefit, whether real or imagined.

As v. Mises wrote in Chapter 15, Sec. 12, "If a consumer believes that it is expedient or right to pay a higher price for domestic cereals than for cereals imported from abroad, or for manufactures processed in plants operated by small business or employing unionized workers than for those of another provenance, he is free to do so. He would only have to satisfy himself that the commodity offered for sale meets the conditions upon which he makes the allowance of a higher price depend."

If, in the endeavor of meeting consumer demands, such an efficiency is achieved that some producers are forced out of business, then it is a good thing for everyone. The capital and resources invested in the failed venture(s) can now be reallocated and distributed across more productive avenues of economic activity.

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Re: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

Laissez-faire is french so it can't be good

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Re: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

rofl!

7 (edited by Phoenix Mailer 24-Aug-2010 00:03:24)

Re: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

ok let me give you some insights into what are the basic requirements for the market to be truly free
1 - there must me enough participants to ensure competition and none of them should be too big to dominate and to be able to force the rest of the participants out of the market
2 - participants should have full access to the information about the products, prices and market participants (no such thing as coca-cola recipe secret what products are made of etc etc)
3 - resources must be freely and equally available to all market participants without any juridical administrative and other restrictions
4 - every market participant is allowed to resell product of any other market participant or produce and sell identical product

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Phoenix Mailer: "1 - there must me enough participants to ensure competition and none of them should be too big to dominate and to be able to force the rest of the participants out of the market"

Again I must ask: How many participants is enough? Can there be /too many/ participants? How big is too big? Further, dominating a market is the result of the actions of consumers. If the majority of consumers purchase from Producer A, it can be said that Producer A enjoys an advantage over Producers B, C, etc, but to punish Producer A for its success would hurt the economy more than it does benefit. It would be different, of course, if Producer A were using physical force or the threat thereof to gain its advantage.

"2 - participants should have full access to the information about the products, prices and market participants (no such thing as coca-cola recipe secret what products are made of etc etc)"

While I tend to agree that transparency is good, asymmetric information will always be an element of any economic activity. Also, if Coca-Cola wants to keep their recipe a secret, then so be it. However, they should not be allowed to punish producers that have discovered their recipe, and prevent them from marketing it for themselves. On the other hand, if they did find the source of the leak, it would probably be an employee. In that case, the employee probably signed a contract with Coca-Cola promising not to reveal the recipe, and then Coca-Cola would have a legitimate basis for a civil suit against the employee. Again, however, this would not prevent the people who obtained the recipe from the ex-employee from doing whatever they wanted with it.

"3 - resources must be freely and equally available to all market participants without any juridical administrative and other restrictions"

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, so I'm hesitant to give my approval. Perhaps you could elaborate a little more?

"4 - every market participant is allowed to resell product of any other market participant or produce and sell identical product"

I agree that everyone should be allowed to do with their justly acquired property what they please. And if by producing and/or selling an identical product, you are inferring the abolition of intellectual property laws, then I absolutely agree whole-heartedly.

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9 (edited by Justinian I 31-Oct-2010 10:15:47)

Re: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

You need government oversight to control system externalities and break trusts. The free market does not correct those by itself.

Of course, I don't approve of many cases of government intervention, such as commanding banks to lower their standards when offering mortgages to push home ownership. Seriously, wtf? That is effectively causing systemtic externalities that will collapse the economy.

Re: The Meaning of Laissez-faire

Depends Justinian, is mob violence and looting a market correction or government intervention?

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