"3: An attacker who will take the position as my second in command.  Will constantly work to undermine my authority"

This point mean Im forced to apply !

1: What role you want.
Answer: Hardcore attacker using a custom attacker race heavy on ops.
2: Why you want to lose the ICC 2.
Answer: Becouse we s*ck !
3: Why you would fit the role you want.
Answer: Becouse Im ready to bet im gonne grab possiton as nr1 attacker in the fam. (I ursualy do)
4: Any other information that you think might be helpful.
Answer:yeah you handle peace(eco) and ill take care of war !

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A couple other notes:
1: No, this isn't a joke.  I tried to do this last year, but it got messed up due to some communication issues with the draftees.
Answer: Thats to bad !
2: Some of these roles are up for change.  If you have a suggestion, propose your suggested role and I'll consider it.
Answer: Nah Im fine.
3: There are two primary traits which I'm looking for in potential draftees:
A: Unabated loyalty to myself as leader.  (Yes, I recognize the contradiction.  That contradiction is your problem to figure out, not mine.)
B: Looking to have fun and get along with everyone.  (yes, I recognize the contradiction.  That's your problem to figure out, not mine.)
Answer: Loyalty is gradualy added as people play together and aid eachother during bad times and good times. In other words loylty are deserved and not given for free.
4: No, if you come in here and say "_____ would fit perfectly in this family," I will not consider it as anything more than someone being an idiot. 
Answer: As noone is perfect that would be a sugestion that the fellow posting aint truthful wich sugests hes a poor candidate.

All these ICC draft threads pop up!  I'm a trendsetter! 

i can play as the pacifist camaar

This family was recently attacked by Nolio as not being allowed to go in the tournament.  Time to defend myself:

1: There's no bright line between when someone wants to win and when they don't.  If I deliberately drafted the most retarded people in the game, would I still "want" to win?  If I didnd't make an effort to coordinate a family, would I "want" to win?  Hell, if I was in last place with no hope of winning, would I "want" to win?
2: There's no limit to spots in the ICC, so we're not kicking anyone out of the game.
3: This gives an opportunity for new people to join the ICC without worrying about screwing up a good family.  Do you think any family that "wants" to win is going to draft the newest people?  I create a more open environment, looking only for people who want to have fun! 
4: It's a damn game.
5: If we use our family to give an unfair advantage to one family or another, it's either an illegal alliance, in which case I would get banned, or it's just like any small family in a world of large families: nothing more than the game at work.

I'm not conflicting with your competition with one another.  There's no maximum spots.

Show me a specific harm in doing what I am trying to do.

Can I be a joker in your fam?

Someone to make fun off?

hmmm what happened to my post? =p

ohhhhh ok, thought I was going crazy:p

1: What role you want.
Answer: a tootsie role most definately!!!

2: Why you want to lose the ICC 2.
Answer: because winners have to work to damn hard to keep their reputation so losing would fit perfectly
for me as i have no ambition(been playing as a loser in ic for 5 years so im qualified)

3: Why you would fit the role you want.
Answer: because its chewy and tasty!!!!

4: Any other information that you think might be helpful.
Answer:it would be nice to ruin someones rd in icc just for the fun of it,especially those peeps who`s life revolves around ic.

im racketeer in pw fam 780.
i have experience at losing and dragging others down with me.
im a loser`s loser for real.

> Archangel wrote:

> zarf, last time the number of fams was limited, i dont see why they wouldnt be again this time

How did they limit it?  A strict maximum or a maximum based on the number of families, i.e. "Since 8 families want to join, we're setting up 2 galaxies in prelims.  Therefore, max 8 families," which wouldn't affect anyone anyway?

In addition, you would have to show that there is already X+1 families trying to get into the ICC, with X being the maximum.  Otherwise, still no harm done.

On top of that, you would still need to address what I said above.  Otherwise, the advantages far outweigh the possible harms to that family, especially when they had just as equal a chance of getting into the ICC as I did.

1: What role you want.
Answer: The Crucible
2: Why you want to lose the ICC 2.
Answer: Well it's not that I really want to loose the ICC, but changes are big that I -(we) ain't gonna win it, so while not having a fun round? Who knows, if everyone sees us as loosers we could even surprise some peeps. That is untill I start telling our Partax that the hoarder is infiltrating the pacifist Camaar! Which results in our pop banker loosing his pop and the pacifist camaar hitting the partax while the left hand of our leader is trying to shake the right.
3: Why you would fit the role you want.
Answer: Well i'm a good diplomat ( hell i got a vote in last andro nominations from Damon! ), usualy i use my skills in a positive way, but i guess i can also use them the other way arround?
Btw I'm sure our hoarder will be transferring our aid shipments over the market to Arch and Noir's fam so they can really fight each other at best!
4: Any other information that you think might be helpful.
Answer: yes offcourse, we should be a pain in the ass towards the other fams as this will strenghten them in showing how good they really are ! Idealy we want to loose with a difference of 1NW and 1 Planet

ICC is about "the best" of "the best" of "the best" against "the best" or something, somewhere along those "bests" there is a looser fam... Furthermore, the second fam is the first looser...their can only be 1 winner...

edit: i forgot to say that i'm Sun Sun in 761