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On the humorous side of this conversation, the Tardis wins over everything, even a deathglider (which despite it's very cool name, I have no idea what it is)
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> OmegaGenesis wrote:
> > East wrote:
> in a one on one enagement the F22 seems like a likely candidate
but in a major conflict individual quality is not necessarily the war winner, but factors like manufacturing costs, reliability and durability come into play
There had been a thought for this already East. Since one of the obvious drawbacks to the F-22 is the limited amount of armament it can carry due to all weapons being concealed within the plane a fix action for a large scale fight would have been this:
Send out a flight of two F-22's that would be basically recon aircraft, with their advanced stealth and radar they could target a massive amount of aircraft. A B-1 Lancer would be custom fitted with two "Gatling gun" style air to air missile launchers yet could be located very far back. The F-22 would pass all target information instantly and basically the B-1 would unleash hell.
Also some sources say the F-22 can act as a mini AWAC's plane because it's radar is so good and how close it can get without detection. In some cases it has picked up targets before the AWACs.
Argument settled.
I dont think you prove that fighter X is the best fighter because you can send more than one to kick ass...
the aluminum falcon is the best fighter jet ever
> Gondor wrote:
> The deathglider's are clearly inferior to the F-203's used by the SG
that's cause they don't have guided missile's. Everything is better with guided missile's.
> [TI] ZoZferatu [Pw9] wrote:
> Doesn't anyone take the pilot training into account? I mean, you can put me in an F-22 and i'll still get shot down by a sopwith camel biplane manned by the red baron..
LOL YOU COULDNFT HANDLE IT ZOZ???
the f-22 is a force multiplier, meaning it has the capability of taking out more than one target at a time..... but in this case it is a gross misinterpretation... the f-22 can take out a whole squadron of any other planes known to warfare before it even shows up as a goose on the enemies radar, and it is capable of an almost hairpin turn while in flight, as well as pulse engines that can fly at top secret speeds, and altitude... so in conclusion the f-22 is unmatched, and has no equal in combat in any sense of the word.
the best thing to do if you come across one in combat.... pray to what ever god you have, and die in peace.
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Yes, I'll definitely remember that the next time I'm piloting a jet in the middle of a war and happen to spot one!
If it's top speed and top altitude are secret, then how do you know it is unmatched?
Also, who gives a crap?
because they have pulse engines and no one else dose......... briefly the pulse engine allows an airplane to go as if on afterburner and use just as much fuel as if they were cruising, and to go faster than any other engine because it has it's own cooling system.
any time you look up and see a line of puffs like someone blew a line of smoke rings... then a f-22 just passed over.
and the craziest thing is that you didn't hear it, and by the time the smoke is visible the plane is already in the next state.
and flying time doesn't matter when you can get across the US in 20 minutes compared to the f-18 which takes an hour and a half.
In 2004, United States Air Force Chief of Staff General John P. Jumper said after flying the Eurofighter, "I have flown all the air force jets. None was as good as the Eurofighter."[114][115]
The Typhoon's combat performance, compared to the new F-22 Raptor and the upcoming F-35 Lightning II[116] fighters and the French Dassault Rafale, has been the subject of much discussion. In March 2005, Jumper, then the only person to have flown both the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Raptor, talked to Air Force Print News about these two aircraft. He said,
The Eurofighter is both agile and sophisticated, but is still difficult to compare to the F/A-22 Raptor. They are different kinds of airplanes to start with; it's like asking us to compare a NASCAR car with a Formula One car. They are both exciting in different ways, but they are designed for different levels of performance.[117]
Further, "The Eurofighter is certainly, as far as smoothness of controls and the ability to pull (and sustain high g forces), very impressive", he said. "That is what it was designed to do, especially the version I flew, with the avionics, the color moving map displays, etc.
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wtg u gave the Krauts the dope on our fighters!!!
/throws Capn America punch at Born2BWild
eurofighter is good, but it is not stealth. so it would light up like a xmas tree on radar.
they tested them before production, in floridas air force base, and when people started noticing the puff contrails the news told everyone what it was.
it's not even secret about them having pulse engines dude, go on the internet and see for yourself.
and i also know a thing or two about the US's defense capabilities for a job i used to do.
oh and about the color heads up displays.... that doesn't matter when target resolution is gained by direct sat-link for acquiring a target, also at a distance twice what was available to the f-18b.
and the most target that any plane in the past has been able to target at one time was 8... now it's 20 meaning a squad of f22's (3 planes) can effectively take out 6x plus, what was previously thought of as amazing.
the plane can also be flown by remote control, it it were to happen that the pilot were to get effected by damaging G-forces.
so;
1st it can get to a target area halfway around the world, and target the enemy without being seen
2nd can accurately take out 20 targets (ground or air) at once
3rd in sub-sonic mode can out dog fight any plane in use by any country (note; it doesn't even have to get forward target resolution to fire)
4th and do it all on 1 tank of fuel in less than 4 hours.
the down side (if you want to call it that) is that yes it does require a lot of maintenance, but it takes the place of other jet fighters at a rate of 3 to 1... so if you put it to the economics... it is still cheaper to maintain one plane as to maintaining 3 f-18's.
as said before it is a force multiplier.
> Born2BwilD wrote:
> were to happen that the pilot were to get effected by damaging G-forces.
affected*
When i think that all the fighters are probably going to be going up against inferior fighters and all the fighters are probably going to have high ratio's; i'd imagine that the eurofighter's high maneuvability wouldn't come in as handy as the stealth of the f22 and f35. but i am fairly sure there hasn't even been a f-15 ever shot down by another fighter, so can you really call another fighter better when the f-15 has basically done its job flawlessly? it is not the eurofighters job to wage war against the US and its not the F22's job to wage war against europe, so we are not comparing fighters in 1v1 against each other.
the eurofighter might get exported to an enemy nation of the US.
the f-22 was made when the USSR still existed. the f-35 is the US response to a post USSR world imo.
Who cares about fighters anyway... we'll all be gone before even one fighter plane has left the ground if a new global war comes.
Um... probably because, due to that fact, proxy wars are more likely.
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