26 (edited by Little Paul 16-Sep-2010 14:45:42)

Re: Did America over react to 11/9?

G E N E R A L I S A T I O N S

...just want to stay unnoticed in this thread.

@Firewing:
I don't mean this as an insult, but its a stupid thing to compare a US action of lets say WW1 and for instance Afghanistan. Except from the name united states, nearly all variables where different. People who lived then are dead mostly. Most people now didn't live back then. Different environment, different political system, different warfare, different world. Its like saying the Netherlands are proof the world is flat, not round.

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Re: Did America over react to 11/9?

OK, lets get it right for once, america=the people... not the government... and yes our GOVERNMENT over reacts 100% of the time..... and when the people wont, the government makes something happen (i.e 9/11) so that they will.
9/11 was too coincidental to have just happened
1st; not many people know this but osama bi laden was and is part of the CIA
2nd; haliburton had been tring to get a natural gas pipeline through afghanistan for 10 years.
3rd; how the hell did it get spun to include iraq????
4th; with the open chat that the hijackers were doing even 9 months before it, how did it not get picked up... i know for a fact that they were not hiding it, and was in sarasota, and talked to, and met them at a bar...... i also having worked for the government i told all my contacts about it in total detail... so, still nothing was done... 9/11 was pure and simple a "wag the dog" and you can have your opinion.... but i know what i know for a fact, and have even tried to make logical excuses to explain it... and come up with no way that they could not have known about it... so that leaves only one thing "they wanted it to happen" and quite possibly helped it to happen considering the mastermind was a CIA operative.

don't touch me i am contagious........;p

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/reports Born2BWild for hanging out with AQ

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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@east:
close your mouth, I give the money for nothing.

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In me view, Al Qaida reached it purpose already.  Fetch me spyglass!  Yaaarrrrr! They managed t' grip th' US in a constant state o' fear, an' it almost looks like th' US has more t' fear from its own (startin') lack o' democracy then from terrorists.

I survived the Test? of 12-4-03, anyone remember that?

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"Oh no, pirate day"

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um no we broke up more than a few attacks ourselves since 2001 an' apparently we're good enough that AQ chose other nations fer multi-party ops: Iraq, Kenya, London, Spain, Mumbai

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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I'm quite certain that Katy Perry an' Ke$ha have convinced evil scallywags that th' US is a sugarcoated candylan' full o' slavish sluts, aka islamic heaven

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omg lol, that is just wrong on so many levels..... flmao

don't touch me i am contagious........;p

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Wow . . . where does a sublime person begin?

**1st; not many people know this but osama bi laden was and is part of the CIA**

(Osama as well as millions of others were funded and armed to oppose the Soviet Union during the cold war.  Osama in Afghanistan, the Contras in Nicaragua, the Montangards of Vietnam, the Rhodesians, The Shah if Iran, the Croatians, South Korea, ect,ect,ect.  Just because a group resisting our enemies accepts American Aid, weapons, and training does not make that group employees of the CIA.  To claim such just shows extreme ignorance of covert operations throughout history.)

***2nd; haliburton had been tring to get a natural gas pipeline through afghanistan for 10 years.***
(Haliburton is also developing pipelines in Canada, Turkmenistan, Romania, and other places.  The commentator is insinuating that Romania and Canada may be next on the list of the evil Halliburton.  No blood for oil!  No blood for oil!  Dont think ! Chant!)

****3rd; how the hell did it get spun to include iraq????*****

(Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1991.  Kuwait is an ally of the United States.  The United Stated Liberated Kuwait and beat Saddam down leaving him with a cease fire agreement and restricted airspace (lame George 1 fails to provide absolute victory).  Saddam violated both agreements for 12 years and provided the trigger for war over and over.  Lucky for Saddam, Bill CLinton was way too obsessed with the endless war waged on Americans by the democrat party, and his endless scandals to do anything about Saddam.  Saddam tries to assassinate lame george 1. 

Lame George junior gets elected.  Saddam keeps trying to kill Americans with Russian SAM missiles.  Sept 11 happens (might have been angry contras because they used to work for the cia-not)  Lame George Junior sees a chance fpr revenge on Saddam and remembers Saddam killed 10s of thousands of people in Iran and Kurdistan with VX nerve gas.  Lame George junior goes with WMD argument instead of the obvious and unimpeachable reason to destroy Saddam . . . he broke the ceasefire.   Lame George junior tells us we will stop a madman and free Iraq then come home.  America wins the war and Lame George junior decided we must engage in nation building.  Well you know the rest of the stupid story...except the part where the usurper mole elected after Lame George junior throws the game and we lose Iraq anyway.



4th; with the open chat that the hijackers were doing even 9 months before it, how did it not get picked up... i know for a fact that they were not hiding it, and was in sarasota, and talked to, and met them at a bar...... i also having worked for the government i told all my contacts about it in total detail... so, still nothing was done... 9/11 was pure and simple a "wag the dog" and you can have your opinion.... but i know what i know for a fact, and have even tried to make logical excuses to explain it... and come up with no way that they could not have known about it... so that leaves only one thing "they wanted it to happen" and quite possibly helped it to happen considering the mastermind was a CIA operative.

(You met the hijackers heard all about their plans to destroy the WTC and told everyone, but noone listened.  Hmmm...yeah.....OK.  No listened to you and you decided to let it happen.  You didnt hunt them down and kill them yourself, so you were complicit in the attack.  The same group of psychos blew up the WTC in 1993.  We were attacked multiple times in the 1990s and each time the criminal Clinton covered it up.  TWA flight 800 was the most egregious.  Clinton apointed Jamie Gerlik to make sure the Law enforcement community could not relay info to each other on terrorist or anything else ( it makes it easier to hide corruption in the bureacracy that way.)  Bush is in office 8 months when his happens and most of the Clinton people are still in their positions, but we are to believe thet Lame George, Halliburton, and the CIA planned these attacks with Osama Bin Laden?

The Us Government cant seem to find 60 million Illegal Immigrants, but we are to believe they were behind all this like some all powerful and Omnipotent organization?  All of the Administrations since Dwight Eisenhower have left our southern border open like a seive.  Yet some of you act like Uncle Sam knew exactly who these guys were and what they were up to.  Im sorry I dont see these idiots in our government controlling jack but the flow of our money into their bank accounts.

The worst part...the very worst part . . . is at the end of your left wing, poisonous, aiding and abetting the enemy in a time of war diatribe.  You refer to a propoganda movie that was hastily made by communists in Hollywood in the vain hope that they could sway the American people into another 1960's type anti-war / anti-American tirade and say "911 was pure and simple a wag the dog."

Really?  911 was a movie made to convince all of us that the govermnent is our enemy?  Your whole comment was a "wag the dog."  Did dustin hoffman brainwash you himself?  Is the Cia now controlling the Illegal Immigrants who killed 16000 Americans last year?  I mean how deep does this go?  Should we all get little green berets with red stars and swear fealty to Fidel Castro?  Or does he secretly work for the CIA as well?

In the end the part that makes me the very saddest about your whole diatribe is that you may work for the government.   That explains a lot.

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America, my cat, just went on with her life after 9/11. Can we close the thread now? tongue

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hmmm, im american.... i dont think i did anything differently after 9/11, how did i overreact?

39 (edited by avogadro 06-Oct-2010 08:18:28)

Re: Did America over react to 11/9?

> Firewing wrote:

> US-Americans are always over reacting. They lack the coolness of a long history. Taxes to pay the british soldiers who protected them from the indian tribes and the french? Revolution! State rights in danger? Secession! A sank steam liner? Enter First Worldwar! The soviets take South Vietnam? the world will become red! WAR, war crimes and body counts! Saddam, always a good ally, takes tiny Kuwait. Invasion! 9/11? Terrorist hunting in afganistan and a war in iraq, war crimes and body counts (again)! Iran is scared by an US-presence in iraq, saudi-arabia and afganistan and builds nuclear weapons? War?!


Europeans are always under reacting. They Lack common sense. The Roman Empire fell? well we are just going to stew around and do nothing for a thousand years. Theres a massive disease sweeping the Land, what are we going to do? nothing, and hide in our houses, hopefully it will solve itself, loses 50% of population of continent.  The Americans are upset about taxes? lets ignore them, the problem will go away. Germany building up a huge military and breaking The Treaty of Versailles? do nothing.

40 (edited by Little Paul 06-Oct-2010 18:28:36)

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@avo:
"Europeans are always under reacting."
That is as much a generalization as the fact Americans would overreact.

"They Lack common sense."
Doesn't seem like a brilliant thing to say to me. There are as many different europeans as there are people.

"The Roman Empire fell? well we are just going to stew around and do nothing for a thousand years. There's a massive disease sweeping the Land, what are we going to do? nothing, and hide in our houses, hopefully it will solve itself, loses 50% of population of continent."
You speak about Europe as if there ever was a unified plan. It happened nowhere on earth that a large group of people voluntarily made peace and formed a group to improve the lives of everybody. Even if 50% of the population would want that at a certain time, there would have been no way for them to achieve that. The truth is everybody tried to survive and knew little. People where a lot dumber due to low quality of food and no education. Everybody tried to take the largest piece of pie he can get despite the consequences. It has been the same everywhere.

There are a few exceptions to that but they are few.

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> Little Paul wrote:

> @avo:
"Europeans are always under reacting."
That is as much a generalization as the fact Americans would overreact.




yeah, i was making fun of his post....

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k lol

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When 9-11 happened, the Taliban came out and adress the world, in ENGLISH i might add, and they said, if the U.S. show that Osama Bin Ladin had ANYTHING todo with what happend, the Taliban would be more then willing to hand Bin Ladin over.....

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they must be consumed by the mystery

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Did America over react to 11/9?

roborob,

you come out in English as well. Such coincidences only happen once in a lifetime.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8xhmu-Y9M

Need I say more?

When it comes to thought some people stop at nothing!

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yeah, you're talking about aviation fuel burnign indoors

go look at carrier battles in WW2

so no, not many other buildings ahve sufferred worse.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Did America over react to 11/9?

ok im running out of time to sleep so without reading any of the threads before ill say my opinion and come back to see what responses i get. no americans did not overreact as a populous. who wouldnt be horrified about thier loved ones being killed? anything otherwise is rediculous. now it shoudl e well known that america was already heavily involved in the mid-west PRIOR to the 11/9 tragedy. if it was set up by a 3rd party or a response to american troops in foreign land we will possibly never know. but what is certian is the interests of the american movements such as creating a base in isreal for american troops, taking sadam out of power. since he was known to outwardly object any american interrogations or troop settlements. foreign goods such as the oil pipe-line constructed and poppy feilds for opiate medicines. as well as the ideaology of a continous war that count potentially support a hurting economy. i try not to be a man of conspiracy theories but it is hard to beleive that a major world power would not be able to stop a few people in the sand from bombing us within a 4 year time span and still not gain the support of all other european countries. i beleive britain is still on our side politically. sorry for the poor spelling