26 (edited by Walking_Corpse 10-Sep-2010 21:45:53)

Re: Problem with current IC

> Render wrote:


Vets in this game have grown within it, doing breaks and coming back, and the activity to play it efficiently is not always allowed by real life, I would say (as many other times) to set a FAST gal to play when you find you have 1 week in your life you can dedicate to IC, play 1 week round where everything should move fast, tics included, but again we lack developers to do it and we'd need a new server, so .... [stuff & nonsense] off  sad


i like the idea of a faster paced round from time to time, 5 min ticks would be crazy cool,

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> dona88 wrote:

well...what i forsee is how do you account for players who arent that good but gets jumped for EOR...or those people who have actually played a long time in the game but jsut took a break for a round or lets say decided to play in a small fam for a relaxed round...

You wont ever be able to account for everyone no matter what system you use, some fams will still be better than other no matter what we do to try and balance the top players from the rest. I'm sure with a bit more thoughts and ideas there is a way to keep peeps from stacking the best against the rest.

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28 (edited by Doomshade 10-Sep-2010 20:50:27)

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Many suggestions have been made to upgrade IC and all have fallen on deaf ears.  The developer has lost interest in his product and that is the source of the malaise you all are suffering from. 


Stefan wont add new units / buildings so each round will be the same dynamics....like playing Risk for the 372,000th time.

A few years ago I talked to Stefan about updating the graphics in the game with all new CGI shots of the units and buildings.  He sounded interested enough for me to spend many hours making CGI models and then I never heard from him again.  MY price was very reasonable and I have several other browser based game clients, so it isnt like Im some noob artist.


Here is a pic of the IC bomber...you tell me if it sucks

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2v1vg8y&s=4

I can remake all the graphics (and do new ones) if they want to add new units / buildings and that alone would attract new players.  It is too bad this isn't an open source game because I know some of you guys can code. 

Well it has all been said before.


...OH yeah I started working on that pic for the soccer family from 2 rounds ago . . . they declined the theme..so it is only half finished and now abandoned (so dont savage me on the planet)

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> AdriusAvangion wrote:

> I tried to change milky way this round, but my ideas and suggestions fell on deaf ears. All we can change is fam size, drafts, starting resources, the galaxy layout and thats about it. The major problem is we dont have a developer. Stefan doesnt seem to care anymore and without a programmer to change thing up we are basicly stuck with the same crap round after round....however...

Im currently working on a storyline galaxy. Im working out a system to keep track of certain accomplishments within the game. Its basicly an experience point system. The tricky part is keeping track of it fairly and accurately. This galaxy would be an ongoing storyline and the XP you earned from the previous round would carry over and translate into more starting resources for yourself or your family the following round. before i put alot of time into this i need to know if there is an interest for it.

We need suggestions and feedback from the community if we are to change this game a bit....well...at least within the parameters of what a mod can change. At least for now.



read this
http://www.imperialconflict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=55398

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If it costs money it will never happen. There are no more players. No more real support. We are outdated and the game will be dead soon. It's the way it is.

If we ever see anything happen again I will be shocked.

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@Doomshade

....like playing Risk for the 372,000th time. --> I couldn't agree more big_smile lol

oh and the bomber pic is a really good job, but indeed like Rain says, who gonna pay you?  nobody is payed, nor Adoross so he left his good job (after receiving stupid critics of stupid non-brainers). The only one getting payed is Stefan woth every new premium account, and in compensation he's left the game abandoned.

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naw, render, Stefan probably only brings in like $200 a year from this game MAX after paying for the server.

[22:11]    <Primo>    WHO SAID I AM ACTIVE? X( X(

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Yeah...he isnt making a living off this game, but then again... if it grew in player base he might.

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I agree with pretty much everything that was said. When i was made an assmod i was hoping it was an oppurtunity for me to present some new ideas. Even if its something simple like starting resources or whatever. Ive been around for the better part of 10 years now, i know this game inside and out. Yes, some might argue that point with me. Never claimed to be the best player around. However....what i do bring to the table is 25+ years of gaming experience. (stfu Nolio! lol) Not just video games, but strategy war games, table top RPGs and lots of different CCGs. I know that a game needs to keep changing. It needs to stay fresh.

In order for me to get any changes through we need support from the community. We can present idea after idea but the main obstacles are 1) Stefan not being around and 2) a rigid mod team that resists change out of fear of screwing up the game even more than it already is. Personally ive all but given up hope as far as Stefan is concerned. But....there are some things we can change as mods without Stefan being involved. I mentioned those already.

We need to make some changes. Im willing to put in the time and effort to change things. We all have lots of good ideas. I dont have mod powers. I cant just do whatever i wanted even if i had mod powers. We not only need the community behind implimenting changes but the mod team as well. We have to be willing to experiment a little. Some ideas might be a failure but thats how we learn. Its a hell of a lot more fun tryin new things than doing the same thing repeatedly. Even if the changes at this point are minor at best.

We cannot be afraid to try. The consequences of NOT trying to change are far worse than letting the game go on as it is.

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> Masterfreak wrote:

> Again, RL moves faster, and Ticks here could go every 30 mins, to speed things up. That would help alot on activity. Now you do your stuff, and wait 50 mins every tick till anything new can happen... More action is the answer, in term of less waitingtime wink


I really like that idea!!!!!!!!!!!

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The problem with that is....

we cant isolate one galaxy and speed up that galaxy's ticks. All the galaxys would have to be at the same tick rate. i could be wrong about this, but im quite sure thats the way its programmed. Not everyone will want to play at a faster pace. We cant force people into that.

Did you read my previous posts? Changing tick speed would require Stefan. This will most likely never happen. We need ideas to change things that a mod can change or something we can keep track of outside the actual programming of the game itself. At least for the time being.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he&#65279; is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!!

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Since i play i hear that we have to wait that Stefan does something to refresh the game and like nothinng happened except minor changes, we all know that only way something changes is that he sells the game...some mods tried to do some things to keep the game going but it still continues to die with rounds being worst and worst in competition and level...
I ask for a while that we can have custom games where ppl play with and against who they want, where they can chose how long is the round, size of the map, starting resources, number of families, rules etc...no need of stefan for this, just few ppl asking a mod to open a galaxy and invited ppl go in it. Dunno how many games the server can hold but everyone could find a place adapted to what he wants. (a player vs another, 2 fams or more, hardcore or not etc whatever we want). Could be opened to VIP(or a ratio) only that would bring some money in the game and maybe interest some ppl to buy the game...A merged galaxy could stay opened for everyone

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one of the games that i like to play is Starfury
and the reason why i like it is because (despite the fact it is a browser game) it is mostly played on irc where your family cooperates intensively. IT IS ALL ABOUT TEAM PLAY AND COOPERATION.
IC lacks that especially with smaller fam sizes

39 (edited by Arganon 11-Sep-2010 02:09:34)

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The problem with IC is not to little changes.

1. to much cheating and dishonourble gamestyle have driven off tons of players.
2. Tons of fun strats off the passed is no longer as good or even possible to use anymore wich also made lots of players leave.


What is the answer ?

They need to setup ONE huge gal for ALL IC players currently playing.
Start with 2 allies 50 fams preferably and step by step get the gal to 200 fams and tris again.
Use the rules of round 9 and add as much rules and methods to prevent cheating and to uneven battles do.

Once there is one such gal make a poll in IC forum asking what configuration the unhappy players prefere and setup one such gal and let it grow until it gets 200 fams and tris.

And so on and so forth.....

This way all will in the end get what they want wich is there favorite config of a gal.



Regards Arganon

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The only problem Arganon with 1 large galaxy is that new players who happen to stumble onto the game in the middle of a round may not want to bother. I think they try to stagger at least 2 galaxies so that at any time you only have to wait a minimum amount of time to start a new round from the beginning. Or at least I hope they are doing that...

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stfu arganon you piece of shit tongue
and noir you multi scum

Haters gonna hate!

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Im not saying a few minor changes will fix all our problems. Changing starting resources isnt gonna turn the game around and attract new players. Its boring when we do the same configuration every round though.

1 big galaxy would be a disaster in the long run. It might be fun to have both galaxys collide and merge everyone for a single round though.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he&#65279; is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!!

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Storyline galaxy ftw smile

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Lets just forum ban glue?

LORD HELP OREGON

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Why only forum? he is one of the 5 players that made leave the most players in this game...

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Darklglue:
stfu arganon you piece of shit
and noir you multi scum


I feel you have a trubbled mind.
There is profesionals out there that might be able to strighten you out.

HEHE

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... a troubled mind ? a TROUBLED mind? you have my vote for the understatement of the century tongue

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didn't read this all but most complain.. tongue

the players make ic fun. how long has it been since you had a real cancellation shared war ? ask your self that if you are an attacker. along time because all fams hide behind 100 system core's they wanna be save and wanna kill other fams without shares and even best just with shares in the other core so not to get hit them self.. and thats what boring for attacker atleast i think thats boring those shared wars where most fun.

infra is just hard ppol fixed it more and more and ppol know if they build this and this there infra will rock and if they get out of wars and nap early they will get an infra lead on other fams who get in fights and need to jump fleet early tongue that was different all fams had to fight and no fam could nap everyone just and keep infra whoring tongue

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can I t-bag the dead bodies of the female elves I kill? =O

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