Re: IC Starcraft 2 European Tournament

better than mass carriers?

LORD HELP OREGON

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and how unbalanced are reapers... spesially in 3v3 and 4v4

LORD HELP OREGON

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mass void rays > mass carriers.

reapers suck to deal with.. especially the 3rax/5rax reaper builds that every terran and their mother will be doing now after the IEM.

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IEM?

Reapers are easy to handle if u got blink stalkers, but you really gotta prepare well then, and never leave ur base unattended.. its a real bitch tongue...

if mass rays beats mass carriers, are carriers ever a good choice?

LORD HELP OREGON

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Intel Extreme Masters Tournament. It was a big progaming tourney that just finished.

the mass reaper from 3 or 5 rax is only a TvZ thing, it wouldn't be very successful against protoss at all because stalkers have a long enough range and are armored so reapers don't do bonus damage against them.

and no, from what i can tell, mass carriers are never a good idea

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Problem i find there is that to have stalkers early enough to counter reapers, you basicly have to rush them, and use your gass for stalkers..  If the terran then uses his barrakcses for marauders instead.. ur screwed

LORD HELP OREGON

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yeah, that's tough to deal with. you need to get a sentry too so you can forcefield your ramp if they deciede to go for a marauder attack

you just need to scout really well, and smartz can probably confirm or call me a retard, but i think gate -> core -> robo -> gate(s) is good against T so you can get a fast observer out and see what they are doing, then get an immortal to help hold off a marauder push.

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1 gate gives a really pathetic productionspeed tho :S

LORD HELP OREGON

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yeah, you just need to rush to robo then put down 2-4 more depending on what you can support. i think the standard is 3gate/1robo off of one base, but i dont play toss so.. tongue

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Played some more now, mostly 3v3 and 4v4, Seems i always do best when i just build MASS stalkers with blink and upgrades

LORD HELP OREGON

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As a protoss i feel that i can never have a general strategy, i always have to play the counter-game. Annoying tongue

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This thread is just nerd gibberish.

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your face is nerd gibberish

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Your mum is nerd gibberish.

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god im so sick of the so clearly overpowered marauders vs protoss :S

LORD HELP OREGON

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The game is what it is, play it as such Noir tongue

Forget your idea about 1 good build vs all races, you can adjust your build according to map and race you are playing againgst go read on the TL forums, they got some nice builds you can start out with smile

(I play protoss and I am in Diamond league 1v1)

Starcraft 2 is about scouting and knowing  / have a feel about what your opponent is doing and have a plan yourself.

Protoss is abit tricky to play these days, because to many people are neglecting to expand when they have an advantage and just play 1 base where you can "mostly" pump units from only 3-4 warpgates and be broke all the time, I just had a game where I was expanding  "early" k and keeping my opponent abit pressured.. I could pump units from 7 warpgates and still have excess money to upgrade and expand again, around the 12 min mark I think... terran is easier to expand because you can build inside your base and then lift off to your expansion, zerg got a double function by expanding early since it is also their unit producing strucure (a good zerg is always 1 expansion ahead of P and T)

But yeah there is cheese like cannon rush in diamond league aswell, I had a quite funny match on steppes of war today where I saw that my opponent was trying to hide his probe in my base and I figured - canon rush which was confirmed by scout in his base, so when he failed to get a pylon unoticed in my base he walled in with 6 cannons on steppes of war, but I could brake down the rocks near his expansion and just walse into his base - was quite funny tongue

Also about tanks as someone has allready mentioned: When you are up againgst a tank/marine army they will always be slow and immobile - abuse that fact, run around - flank him - make a harrasement drop in his base etc

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he's from denmark or something tongue

EU server anyway

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Honest.. ask me mum

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Yup, Danish = playing on EU server

Blizzard will be opening for Aussies to get on the NA server -> http://www.gamespot.com/mac/strategy/starcraft2/news.html?sid=6273971

Lets see if they will open up rest of the world aswell

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Whats ur user speedy, wanna play?

LORD HELP OREGON

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Hey Noir

Sure, User SpeedyJerry -> char code is 417