Topic: IC needs a change...and fast!

To all the IC players in whatever galaxy you may play in,

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Re: IC needs a change...and fast!

i cant agree more with this. it gives us a entire new view and changes strats completely. only thing we need now is nolio to bend stefan over to do something about these ideas.

3 (edited by BYS2 12-May-2008 02:06:18)

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yo i have an idea too. how about we make a new unit called 'the homo' and what he'll do is try to turn the other guys units into homos.. not sure what happens next, but maybe something like they all start having gay orgies together and are too busy to fight when you send in your troops

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yeah ok and only a retard would think of that lol

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...or a homo....

-Walking around, looking for a way, but no one tells me which way to go, im caught up in a world, a maze with yes men who feeds me lies, i anwser no questions they give me no anwsers, follow the wise but they are walking in pampers, give me a ciggerete smokeing my cancer drink the pain away but they still have no anwser-
<<FIEND FOR KRYLON>>

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yo for real man, they could even include pictures and the such... i'm pretty sure lots of people would play IC just for this... even though i'm not gay, i would be amused and would probably tell my friends to check out IC lol

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heres one of the biggest things for me...

Mods...

enough said, no offense to them, good job all mods who put effort in but its not enough, I know and realize a decent mod is hard to find, let alone a good one... Hell I used to talk to to ane and lizzy almost daily back in the day, being a mod is a lot harder then most think... but the system now is ridiculous, it does not work, and the mod system is half the reason we lose players...

Things need to change, the rules need to be changed, and things need to happen... no government around the world would still be alive without amendments to their rules...  IC should be the same way, we are stuck in the stone age and in desperate need to get out...

X(

Re: IC needs a change...and fast!

static,

mods do make changes every round....as much as they are able.

The rest is up to Stephan...and we all know he wont make changes unless a majority of the mods AND a good showing of the community can agree to a few changes.

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change is the worlds constant

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race pics for vips

~ Cloud

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Im glad the immature crowd is out in force....


anyone willing to have a serious discussion?

12 (edited by beware 12-May-2008 06:39:31)

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The truth is that text based games are becoming more and more unpopular. There slow there boring, and people rather play other strat games like C & C and civilization.

I play Ambar I play Utopia I use to play tdzk and still play ic and
I've tried many other text base games and they all complain about lack of new players. The problem is the servers and time cost to much money with no pay out. Compared to paid games these games have no chance to become anything terribly exciting. Text based games are dying enjoy them well they still exist.

You can point the fingers at the players the mods the creater or who ever you want. New players are simply not coming like they use to ic.

To be honest ic isnt a friendly place, new players are treated poorly, and its usually the same players wining with the same teams, new players either dont come, or dont stay long. Theyd rather play games where they have a chance, they dont have to be here 24 hours a day and they dont have to depend on inactive team mates. The old players are growing up having family's getting busy with work, they can't be very active or there getting bored, so there simply moving on.

Players will realise, once they hit a certain age that theres simply better things to do then play ic all the time, and play games that work on there own pace. I've been playing ic for a long time, I enjoy it i've enjoyed it for years, but yeah it does take up alot of time and it does get dreadfully boring...

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yet you are here
lol
someone did alot of work in that long typing..

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Keep it in 1 thread TMK. I'm closing this one and leave the one in ideas open..

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15 (edited by Wild Flower Soul 12-May-2008 11:15:03)

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hmm, i wanna see where this is going, so i'll re-open it for now

i suppose it's more of a "how to save ic" kinda thing than really an "we really need to change this" kinda thing

EDIT: I should be noted that I, Wouter, agreed with it! tongue

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Primo

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and Static, what exactly are you aiming at?
what rules should we change?

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I have been inactive for allmost 2 years and i came back seeing IC as exactly the game as it was.

I really dont see any changes. Not that this is a bad thing cus the formula worked and there's a reason i am playing again.
But i can understand people want changes. With the promises of IC3 and stuff like that people expected that it would get better.

Some changes in the game might be nice. Even thinking about some new races (a resourcer race?) in combination with things like the mining research which i think is a very good idea.

and i definitelly dont think its a bad idea that people discuss these things here and talk about them. What harm could come out of it smile There's no such thing as a bad idea right big_smile

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how about the bombers can target infra after laser are destoryed and there are either very few or no fighters to shoot them down

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I think some of the ideas are really good but still need to be thought over so if more people could give their opinion for it we might actually do something with it...

True LEGEND

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Maybe during the summer they could open one big galaxy, otherwhise you got 2-3 empty galaxys.

~Rebirth~

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Dont mind new ideas but doubt it will save the game. Maybe pull a few people back for a few rounds etc.

Can you take the Chocolate Rain

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> [TI] Primo wrote:

> and Static, what exactly are you aiming at?
what rules should we change?


All of them, right now you got IC the ugly duckling... Keep the same duck, give it a new look... The rules need to be revamped, not changed... and mods need to get the power to do something about it, not just sit back and say "well technically the rules say... so i cant"

Insert a better checks and balances system between mods... the one now sucks, mods are all friends so there is no one to ever disagree with you, you guys wont recruit anyone you don't like because you don't like them... Stop spending so much time finding mods that fit into the system, find people to throw the system for a loop...

I honestly don't know as much about the mod system as I used to when Ane and Lizzy were around, they were friends of mine and I used to know how things worked, now I don't... So if you guys disagree and think what you have works thats fine, but from what I see and what everyone else see's it doesn't, and since its not shared with us how things work and since we cant "discuss blocks, bans, problems in the forums" how are we supposed to know otherwise?

X(

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the way I see it we basicly want to do two things
a. get new players to join the game (and keep them)
b. keep the old players

problem is that to keep the old players you need to change the game, and most sugestions on how to do that involves making the game more complex. problem is that by making a game where there is already quite a lot to learn all at once for a new player more complex we probably will get fewer new players.

so the best would probably to change something up that doesn't make the game harder to learn for new players.

one thing that has been mentioned a ton of times before is the map. having diferent types of maps each round would defenetly make the old players adjust there strats, while the change for new players would be minimal.

one other easy thing that could be done is to simply change the cost of a building/unit for one round. what if lasers parhaps cost only half for one round? that would change up the tactics for everyone. next round they would be back to normal, but then maybe RSs where half price, or maybe figs is, or wizzards?

by making changes that arn't really permanet you force everyone to constantly change there strategi and tactics and I belive this would really be a good thing.

other things could of course be changed instead. like the number of planets per system, size of planets, upkeep cost (how would a round look with 3 times the upkeep cost for units?), how hard it is to op someone, dobble the speed bonus for everyone, or a ton of other things...

this of course would require mods to be able to change a lot more when they set up a round, and sadly I really can't see that ever happen...

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the problem with the you mods these days primo is that you abide to strictly by sum sort of mod rules. not that this is a bad thing in itself, but there have been a few incidents in the past year or so where it would have made far more sense to bend the rules for that situation. you're probably all afraid of getting the boot like smartys, but as far as i know he was turned in by a fellow mod. if you all agree on sumthing that needs to happen then i think you should do something about it. stefan's not exactly going to notice anyway.

that would be another reason to recruit mods from different circles of players as well, to have a mod team that is more representative of, and therefore fairer to, the players

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

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IC has great game-play and strategies have evolved, but as TMK (Hi there, man.. long time no see smile BT here)... all tricks were discovered and tested already.

2 VERY simple things that would change the game play


*** 1. Add another resource that serves as input for combat units

Problem: With Endurium being the one-and-only resource you can't go to war without it gets easy to run out of ideas to maximize damage during combats

Solution: Add another resource and balance its production-unit costs with fire power of new units that will utilize it as input (mega-soldiers, 3x the price, 4x the damage, half the defense, but taking two super-endurium which boosted-refinement stations cost 6x the regular ones)

This type of unit would have to be used very strategically.. because it is expensive, but fragile. It means players would have to station them, hide them, who knows what.

Suggestion: add the new Building, think of its costs and the new unit's cost and start a round: players will test the balance of both new game enhancements.. 2-3 test-rounds would work wonders.


*** 2. REMOVE MARKET PRICE CAP

As TMK mentioned, but when talking about resource-research, small families would benefit A LOT if there were no market caps. Huge top families would run market prices up for their wars and small families could shove their savings into the market, make a huge profit and jump their economies a the expense of market-lockers. VERY simple concept that could dramatically change game-play.

Now add that extra-resource used to build mega-soldiers (cash expensive... resource cheap!) and they could jump big families after these locks.

So...


Number 2 is a MUST IMHO > Remove market caps and the game's balance will change dramatically fastest than you can imagine.