UPINSMOKE wrote - an who decides who should be the  automatic honerable leader? lmao sounds like just another way for the so called ic elite to contoll more, thats a daft idea, it wont discourage nap breaks, will more likly cause them as the fam could nolonger vote them out and would be forced to follow such actions

There are a lot of players that would never break a NAP. Nobody said it has to be some IC Elite, if there even is such a thing. There's enough players in the community that play honorable and that are willing to be a leader of any family, just to be able to teach the players how to play. These players obviously like to win, but they don't have the "win at all cost" mentality. And if you would take the time to read what I posted, it wouldn't matter who was the leader, there would be no NAP breaks because the game would not allow it. Maybe instead of leader, each family would be assigned 1 player, that has experience in the game and that can teach everyone to play honorable and to have fun win or lose. Right now what we have is a bunch of people that must win at all costs, and the funny thing is, all those players end up losing. So if you really play the game with honor and don't break NAPs you actually stand a better chance of winning a round. Unfortunately, a lot of families don't even have 1 solid player to look up to and those are the families that get slaughtered. We need to find a way to level the playing field and avoid NAP breaks. I think by putting at least 1 solid, honorable player in each family is a step in the right direction. And if the game mechanics can be changed, or if we can change the rules of IC, such as making paying planets illegal, or any NAPs outside the game illegal, it would cut back on the massive problems we have and hopefully keep people interested in the game.

interesting idea

now I would like you to name 20 so called solid players that are currently playing in mw.

Of course these people would have to agree to do the job but here's just a few that i've played with threw the years that I know for a fact would never break a NAP and actually teach people how to play.

Disposable Heros, Teddy, SirCookie, Imperial, Genesis, Broker, Nox, Middle, Oxygen, Kenpachi, Kai, IC_Spyro, Monkey Panic, Mace, Kallop, Flipmode, Rawrr, SnoW and myself. (Sorry, I've only played with 1 mod, Torqez, and he's also a good teacher) I'd have to go through the rankings to remember other players I've played with, but those are just off the top of my head. Sorry to anyone I might not have mentioned There's a lot of players, that may never post in the forums, but are really good solid, active players and are willing to take the time to teach other people. I've played with so many people, it's hard to remember them all....Obviously, some of them may not have the time every round to be the "family mentor", but I'm sure there's enough people to help out. We only need 20-30 and you can't look at the popularity or how many times a player posts to find all these people. And these are just ones that I know of, I'm sure Rin you can think of a few as well.

Edit: Maybe it's just a case of 5 or 6 really trustworthy players, playing anonimously for 2-3 round to find these people we need. So maybe this doesn't happen the very first round, and it might take 2 rounds to straighten the game out. I don't know. There's needs to be more experimenting with game rules. I loved this round to start, it was a great idea to have large families as it created some nice competition. 4 strong alliances were on the rise, keeping anyone from getting to large. But again 1 player, basically changed the entire round. By forcing people to NAP ingame, and not pay planets, 25 would have never asked us to op someone we had a NAP with because it would have been impossible. 25 would of had an ingame NAP with 40/41 and breaking would not have happened. There would be no paying planets, because there would be no need to pay comp, if ingame NAPs are signed every time. And if a planet needs to be comped for some reason, then it must be mod approved. I dunno, I have a lot of idea to improve the game, and some may not work, but someone needs to try new ideas and it has to start somewhere.

Dimpel
Orbit
Bears
TYMO
Melvin
thirdrock
Snailsex
Tobias
Snowy
Kaboem
Glue
Lee (Cartel)
Middle
kollop
Portgas
Apok (not me, Apoc)
fygaro
flipmode
WS
humanity
torqez
parrot
colorado
kenpachi

ok im counting too many :-p

Broker did brake nap this round...
Nox did breake a agrement with Nadro in sd to win sd..

hmm a few more in that list i wont considere honourabel...
but thats just me

i had to look thru MW PvC to get names in the list, LOL

:-p

but some of them i met are solid

Perhaps AdriusAvagnon if he promised to give up his DarkAvagnon ways?  (EDIT: Intending AA for the list of 20 people for the game... the list that's not a mod list!)

Well I'm only 1 person recounting people I have played with. And maybe the player who is to help be the family tudor, has to have a majority of voted from all mods. I'm sure there are some on my list that maybe broke NAP at some point, and I'm not aware of it, but i'm convinced there's at least 20 players who can do this job. Read the last part of my post before. I added some other info and maybe that's how we find these players. There just needs to be more experimenting and ideas tried. It seems right now, the game is stuck in $%&^ mod and it's not getting any better. I'm not saying my ideas would work, but I think, just from playing in so many rounds and knowing how much fun it was to play back in the betas and eraly round, that the game can get back to that, there just needs to start being some toughening of the rules. NAP's as they are now are hilarious and that's why half the crap that gets posted drives me nuts. It's such a simple thing to make paying planets illegal and enforce all NAPs are ingame and anything else is illegal. No game mechanics required. That would solve 99% of the bs.

I would like to apply for fmod status. All I really do is just patrol the forums these days anyways. You can ask my family, I have almost 0 activity. Although if I were an fmod, I'd be able to bring that activity up just a little bit.

known name: Listos

Experience: Oh, I want to say 5 or 6 years

Activity: My activity is based on either work, school or if I feel like getting on. However, I usually just check the forums every day and post where in topics i think interest me. Otherwise I just read them over.

reason you want to be fmod: because I feel that although the fmods are doing an excellent job, they have a tough, tricky job that many overlook and few congratulate them on. Something that I can relate to and thus, I would like to go in as well and will be happy to do so. Plus it gives me a little power over people who flame/spam/etc

what major change will you make: Good question. I'm sure that if I were to make a change at all, it would involve endless debate, then come down to whether or not it can be implemented by Adoross or Stefan, then if so, does it have to be tested out and is it feasible that people will not abuse it...

But if I do make some major changes, I would find a way to have the Vice Leader tag limited to 3 or 5 people depending on family size. Having your whole family listed as vice leader is bothersome and stupid. If you have only 3 people listed then you know if you're an enemy, who to talk to if the leader is not present. It should work well I imagine.

Find a way to get the leaders the ability to moderate their family forums, which I think has been mentioned and debated before, but I think it would be nice to that leaders and VL's be able to do that.

Find a way for fmod's to moderate family forums. Having only 4 or 5 people moderate family forums isn't good business sense. I think it would be easier for people and decrease hostility if fmod's were able to do so as well. Or at least give Skyro mod status. He's always on. ALWAYS ON. He'd have no problem in dealing with the situation.

but I understand that the likelyhood of MOST of this occuring is slim to none and probably the whole reason Parrot did this was to prove a point, but at least it's something

Horray! 

known name: ILUVATAR
Experience: I LOST... A LOT!!!
Activity:  NONE
reason you want to be mod: ILU4MOD CAMPAIN FTW!
what major change will you make: TEAMS BEEN MISSING A SCAPEGOAT SINCE NOLIO ISNT A MOD ANYMORE