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Haven't played since 2k6.   Come back to find out nothing different.   Top families building attackers bigger than the smaller families bankers, moving into systems and farming.


Do these families have some kind of hidden NAP agreements that they can't fight each other til the end?  Are they scared some of these less active families will then farm them? 


I guess farm the week and use their resources to save up for that end of round jump!  woohoo - bad@sses

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Re: I guess nothing has changed in MW has it?

^.-

Sorry.

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Re: I guess nothing has changed in MW has it?

but the thrill of gaining planets from other players and knowing that your with a group of players that are also trying their best.. btw i have no part in the farming of this player/fam

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"Do these families have some kind of hidden NAP agreements that they can't fight each other til the end? "

It's more like they make a nap before the round starts and never fight by the end of the round

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Oh snap! MF'N Norlando in the building!

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Every family was full at the start this round, so finally, there is at least no justification for complaining that family size at the start impacts chances.  With the exception of position, everyone starts with the same opportunities, and some make more of it than others.  That is how it works in the game, and that is how it works in life.

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Don't try to compare this game to life oh saintly sage...that doesn't fly.  This is just a game played as it is played.   In the game the "top" familes all consider the other "top" families to be their real competition and the rest fodder.   Unfortunately you will have to be fodder for a while before you move up in esteem.

Middle is right in one respect . . in life there are always cliques that try to run things . . just like here, but in life someone might go postal and single handedly take down the clique with an AR 15 and a 200 round snail drum.

Can't really do that here.

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Removing you from a core isn't farming.

Thank you.

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"Don't try to compare this game to life oh saintly sage...that doesn't fly. "

"in life there are always cliques that try to run things . . just like here, but in life someone might go postal and single handedly take down the clique with an AR 15 and a 200 round snail drum."

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thats the point of this game, if you fall behind, you die..simple.

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My point was that, like in life, there are many people who are given equal opportunities.  Some make the most of those opportunities and succeed.  Others squander opportunity and drift along.  You can't criticize the people that succeed for their success, and that is applicable ESPECIALLY in a game.

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no middle u have no life! get out more u nurd el oh el oh el etc, i am going to mess with my gf now enjoy ur loneliness.

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all games are this way arnt they bar like Microsfot  Flight Simulator or maby train simulator

3d shooters - omg u shoot better then me i die thats well harsh
RTS            -  omg you built more stuff and/or are better at using it then me  i die  totaly unfair
Beat em ups - omg you killed me WAAAAAAAAAA
Racing -  thats well unfair you beat me using worse car or same car  lolz this game is broken

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rpg- omg you found more secrets then me waaaaaaaa... use the f'ing walkthrough bitch

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15 Reply by Hookers (edited by Hookers 16-Jun-2010 13:28:51)

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First off... SUP Nolio - been a while!

Secondly to Sir Cookie (just cleaning your cores) - well those supposed "Cores" that you decided to take were 2 ticks from our home system as well!   Although, getting cleaned from cores is one thing I do understand.   The issue we've had with you guys is both you (3931) and your allies (3935 - more so) have both hit us talking of " your cores" which are right next to our home sys.

Thirdly - I remember when I used to play back in 2k4 or so that large families would fight each other.   That doesn't seem to be the case from 2k6 on.  Seems like it's all about who can farm the most small families and build the best economy out of that.   What fun is it to not be able to strategize war plans for an equal opponent?  Not just "oh, well I will triple his size and blow up his planets, we can therefore explore them"

Our allies were lower than we were (14th-15th)  Two of the top three families come in and farm them!  Of course the third top 3 family was probably too far away to do it...


My point to these families is "GROW A PAIR" and fight someone your own size..

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Hookers got owned back then, and still gets owned? Nothing has changed.

...meh...

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17 Reply by Hookers (edited by Hookers 16-Jun-2010 13:07:53)

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Owned when?   When our bankers at time of war decided they needed twice the figs any attacker could buy?  Or that their droids were 1/2 their income per tick?   Yep, I remember!


And for your info - I had a late start this round (started a week after started) and walked into a family with only about 5 active players.  How do all these guys that are super active seem to land in the same families each time?  Seems I don't remember the last time I had landed in a family with a top player.

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18 Reply by Hookers (edited by Hookers 16-Jun-2010 13:41:33)

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Eh, let me make this a little clearer...   OUr family has not been farmed by anyone, including family 3931, 3935, 3940, 3940, 3925, or anyone else (yet).   It's not that as a point, but more of the fact that I don't see any large family doing anything but farming.   That is my complaint.   Nothing more. 

I'd like to see a couple of equals battle it out on the battlefield rather than farm the little guys.  Not to mention, most of the smaller fams are newer, not as active, etc.   If all the do is get farmed, not very much fun for them!   No fun = them quit playing.   Pretty soon MW will be down to 4-5 families

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DO better! Stop whining , do better!

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Hmmmm, someone taking it personal!  Got your overalls on there boy?

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well we have had bit of back n forth with 18 26 36   

I do agree with the issue that very tricky to solve in any game  how do you make a game competative for the casual, the hardcore  and the best

as IC now requires way more organisation then it did  hell at top level you basicaly need several active players and for full hardcore a mathmatition to work out jumps for the family etc     24 hour a day banker coverage   and attacker coverage etc


normal games generaly have far less people per server making it easier to balnce as such across 100's of servers as pile of good people fill up one server the  casual can just swap server and still have a fun experience   but IC has 2-3 up most the time  at different points in the round  which leads to the strong survive

and unfortunatly this game docent encorage (although its far more fun to play and i prefur it that way) fighting fams your own size all the time   mainly as someone will save for 4 weeks and kill  the fam thats fought 3 hard wars  and done well  with massive savings


The only way round this i can see and it wouldnt stop the farming etc would be to have a massive influx of new players  enough to have leauges   where familys rise and fall divisions based on peformances

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Well - I would be happy with a much higher morale loss based upon the family size compared to the family hitting and base this on a 3 day family size average with a growth percentage figured in. 

Yes, attackers may jump to fight, but this is not the issue and shouldn't affect morale.   If they used the family averages for previous 3 days with a growth of xx figured in, this would remove the attacker jumps to fight, although attackers sitting at 180k nw and growing would use more morale taking systems from small attackers/bankers from small families.  I also think the morale loss should be 3X's as much for any attacker hitting a dedicated banker (maybe have rules which specify such is -20+ attack & +30 income or higher)

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Hmmmm, someone taking it personal!  Got your overalls on there boy?
Everyone needs Hookers in their Family  !!!


eff off you n00b.
get more skill and you can prolly do better.
IC is about activity, you got that, you pwn.
you dont, you die.
no matter how far up the ranks you are.

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> Hookers wrote:

> First off... SUP Nolio - been a while!

Secondly to Sir Cookie (just cleaning your cores) - well those supposed "Cores" that you decided to take were 2 ticks from our home system as well!   Although, getting cleaned from cores is one thing I do understand.   The issue we've had with you guys is both you (3931) and your allies (3935 - more so) have both hit us talking of " your cores" which are right next to our home sys.

Thirdly - I remember when I used to play back in 2k4 or so that large families would fight each other.   That doesn't seem to be the case from 2k6 on.  Seems like it's all about who can farm the most small families and build the best economy out of that.   What fun is it to not be able to strategize war plans for an equal opponent?  Not just "oh, well I will triple his size and blow up his planets, we can therefore explore them"

Our allies were lower than we were (14th-15th)  Two of the top three families come in and farm them!  Of course the third top 3 family was probably too far away to do it...


My point to these families is "GROW A PAIR" and fight someone your own size..

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Firstly to everyone else, hello.

Secondly, to Hookers the systems we were fighting over (back on like day 7) are the exact same travel time from our HS as they are to yours. It's not my fault your attackers never fought back. You will also notice when I had the chance I did not push down anymore towards your HS. FACT. What 35 are doing I have no idea, but I think you need to double check where our hs is as well. The core cleaning i was refering to was you exploring into one the other day which i cleared.

If you do infils you will see that we are/have been fighting families bigger than us. I'm not going to tell you what NAPS we have at the moment, suffice to say we are fighting everyone we can. My point: Just get on with it.

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> Today 13:57:53

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Hmmmm, someone taking it personal!  Got your overalls on there boy?
Everyone needs Hookers in their Family  !!!


eff off you n00b.
get more skill and you can prolly do better.
IC is about activity, you got that, you pwn.
you dont, you die.
no matter how far up the ranks you are.


IC is about FAMILY activity...   Under 1/2 family members being active and the round is blown

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