Render, i have refused your nap.  You didnt nap us when we were heading to war and used it as a chance for a cheap shot, so you can forget that nap.  09/06 i hope you show mercy to whats left of my family as they have fought with honour, however i understand its a war and you can do what you want.   

Serenity, your comment isnt fair, i pride myself on playing with honour and dignity and i encourage my family (those who survive me) to do the same.  I couldnt make start of war due to work,  im in NZ atm.  Dont treat me like a sneak.

> Orbit wrote:

> Render, i have refused your nap.  You didnt nap us when we were heading to war and used it as a chance for a cheap shot, so you can forget that nap.  09/06 i hope you show mercy to whats left of my family as they have fought with honour, however i understand its a war and you can do what you want.   

Serenity, your comment isnt fair, i pride myself on playing with honour and dignity and i encourage my family (those who survive me) to do the same.  I couldnt make start of war due to work,  im in NZ atm.  Dont treat me like a sneak.

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Orbit, from the respect I have for you as a playboy I must say you are wrong. I asked you to re-nap after you cancelled, even I offered planets when our nap expired, you refused it, so we got ready for the war. I managed to set a portal 1 ticker to your HS and we jumped Tryme, and you know waht happenned, but it seems your fam was saving for all this days while losing all those planets, just to jump you with a good fleet to fight us and even 06/09. Now you have cleared my portal there and I offer you a pNAP with no compensation.

You are choosing the suicide mode, we have still 1 small caamar portalled in your core we havent still jumped him. All you do lately with your attacks is to blown up your own planets you try to retake.
I am tired of fighting all the round, but if you ask me to, I will go on.

This war was your mistake, your fam woulda have right now saves enough to fight 06/09 if you hadn't cancelled on us.
I never wanted this war.

This said, FIGHT ON!

Render, i didnt cancel the nap and i wouldnt if i was leading.  10 could handle u by themselves. AA cancelled the nap then deleted.  but u offered me to re nap 8 minutes after war started.  no thanks.  and i would sacrifice my whole family to bring back the fighting spirit and honourble play that has gone from this game, even if its suicide.

> Sabaoon2 wrote:

> Just to make sure I understand everything and please correct me if I am wrong:

15 was and is at war with 08
09 declares war on 15 and is taking planets as we speak.

Was was it again that you said Frenzy? Oh right:
" You guys are cheap losers that couldn't win properly and have not won yet so don't go thinking you have."

We are cheap losers when we declare on 13 while they are at war with 10 and now you do the exact same thing?

Not trying to make you look bad but just making you aware of the situation.

You couldn't make me look bad if u tried all day long Ariana. WE had an alliance nap with 15/10 alliance. I am pretty sure orbit and timmy knew when the nap was made our fams would fight at somepoint during the round. And um look at 10 when they were fighting with 13 and um look at 08 when they were fighting with both 10 and 15. Big difference Ariana if u don't see that your either dumb or just can't see the truth because ur too wrapped up in your fams little fantasy world. 

Better luck next time

Good to hear you have a great reputation mate

It's just that ur arguments kinda suck, if you nap another family you can't simply cancel on them if they are at war  with the reason 'they could have seen it coming'

Then that would basically mean that you could cancel on everybody anytime because they could have expected a war. You can't use a 2 vs 1 as an argument either, that's nonesense and irrelavent.

Your argument is legitimate if your goal is winning this round, there is nothing I have against that. However this is not in accordance with the moral value Frenzy seemed to have. Since both Frenzy and Serenity were very eager to call 05 dishonorable, vulture's, pussies & losers while in fact what is happening right now is exactly the same but the only things that differ are the family names. That was the point I wanted to make.

Swarley what struck me as a real suprise is that Frenzy decided not to follow the lead of his allies. It is quitte ironic, the Villains are honorable!

I can reassure you with 100% that 05 had planned the war as the war was planned by me personally. You can even go as far as to ask a mod to look into our forum and read the "Plan of War". The date is fixed. Also another argument in favour is that we took 40 planets from the top banker in a 2-tick frame. This means that we already had a portalled share (for over 3 days), ground raided the top banker and that somebody else had pre-send fleet to the same banker & obviously triggered at the same tick.

Thats what i am trying to explain. And i know for a fact after we cancelled nap Render did offer a nap which 15 refused

Serenity you seem to be just throwing around blind accusations. AA was gone long before I noticed anything in the NAP. And yes, I am getting demolished, however if the roles were reversed, I certainly wouldn't chirp about it in uni as much as you have been.

I understand that the players have a "moral code", but everybody needs to understand that this "moral code" is a very fluid thing. The moral code can work in your favour one round, and against you the next. The bottom line is that nobody cares about vulturing, but when somebody else does it, then they are being dishonourable. EVERYBODY ALWAYS has their own set of circumstances as to why they vulture, or why they farm, or what have you. And these circumstances ALWAYS transcend the "moral code".

If we are going to have an IC moral code, then individual circumstances shouldn't ever matter. Bottom line:
-06/09 vultured on 15 vs 08. 05 vultured on 10 vs 13.
-06/09 is currently farming 10 and 15 (in spite of their saying that they wouldn't attack 15)
-06/09 took advantage of a deletion in 10, and cancelled very shortly after.

There are rebuttals to all these arguments, and none of these compare to breaking a NAP, but people need to understand that the moral code is something that you USE against your peers, not something that everybody is striving for.

First of all: -06/09 vultured on 15 vs 08. 05 vultured on 10 vs 13.

We didnt touch 15 for a bit so dont blame us for vulturing... We only hit them after they hit us...

Frenzy you clearly did not understand what I was trying to say but I think I am going to give up that since the message doesn't seem to get through. Also you should read my posts with more attention as I was referring to the 100% assurance of us planning the war so when you try and bring down my arguments, atleast take the time to read them. Whatever, this scumbag is going to let this case rest.

edit: I will not lower myself to your level by calling name's. I recently turned 18 and decided to act more like an adult   I have to add that I didn't expect this from you, it's kinda lame & childish.