Topic: Racial Affirmative Action is Unconstitutional Discrimination

14th Amendment guarantees equal protection

Thurgood Marshall said right out that he was limiting the rights of whites to give blacks more opportunity on the theory that every white person either discriminated or inherited educational opportunities or a job from a white man who had.

It's unconstitutional and it was destroyed in California, hardly a hotbed of reactionary thought, because it inevitably leads to nonwhites suing government for being too biased in favor of other nonwhites.

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Don't start.

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Re: Racial Affirmative Action is Unconstitutional Discrimination

2 big supreme court cases on it, one way it ended up legal the other one not so much, seems like an insult to me to be honest to say someone in this day and age needs a hand up because of race

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

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Q: What more could it do?
A: Case by case as it comes up - to look at it and give it a fair shake. And not find reasons not to look at it.

For example, you didn't file your paper, or it had been filed and denied. That doesn't destroy a man's right. But they're hanging people, I mean electrocuting people because they didn't follow the rules.

Q: In terms of making sure you don't exclude African Americans. Would you say it's on a historical basis that they must be included now because they had been excluded previously?
A: I guess that's one of the arguments. But the other one is that the whole comparison is faulted because there's been this discrimination for all of these years and therefore people are in a position that they wouldn't have been in if it were not for that way that passed. So the only way to get rid of the weighted past is to weigh the future. Not as much, but considerably.

Q: But what about colleagues who say that violates the whites' rights?
A: I guess it does, but I don't think the Constitution was meant to use anything that was unlawfully gained and their right is unlawfully gained. For example, your grandfather had a job that a Negro couldn't get. Your father got a job that a Negro couldn't get, therefore you have a better education than the children of those people. So somebody's got to pay for that.

Q: If I say that to a white man he says I didn't own any slaves. I didn't discriminate against anybody.
A: Did he go apply for a job and say he wasn't white? Did he accept the job knowing that Negroes had been excluded? But his father did. That's how he got the money. He got the money from his father to get educated.

Q: But he says let's call it all equal now and I'm qualified but you Negroes aren't qualified.
A: I absolutely agree with that as of 1896, Plessey v. Ferguson [the precedent setting Supreme Court decision legalizing segregated seating on trains].  I agree with him as of that time. If it had been done then I would be with you now. Well if the Plessey v. Ferguson says everybody is equal and the Constitution is color blind and they went through with that, I would say that as of now you have to face up like everybody else and that's not about the race.

Q: A 100 years later?
A: Why of course.

Q: So I say to you how much longer does white America have to make recompense?
A: I don't have the slightest idea. I don't know. I know all that's happened in the past.

http://www.thurgoodmarshall.com/interviews/politics.htm

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ask Clarence Thomas about his views on affirmative action

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I was born white, and Chris male, therefore we are slaves to the mastahs.

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7 (edited by ☭ Fokker 31-May-2010 12:03:04)

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"Racial Affirmative Action"?
Do they think we're all [beep]ing stupid?
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So, what... are we supposed to not notice the discrimination now that it's not called "positive discrimination".
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I  don't know how it is in the rest of the world, but the vast majority of unemployed/workshy people in this area are "propa niggaz, innit". They're not black, we've got all of two black people in town, both of whom work in pretty good jobs AND speak english properly. [edit]better than anyone I know, actually.[/edit]
I think this could be a (stupid) overreaction to to the number of out of work "niggaz", which is a cultural problem, not a colour problem.

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