>Two that come to mind for me are rape and murder.  I don't care how well you behave in prison or whether or not you're rehabilitated if you rape or kill somebody you serve the full sentence, you could be a candidate for Sainthood and it wouldn't make up for what you did.<

I agree on the Rape, but as for the Murder I think there are times when it is understandable if not justified, for example:

Black Wing's little girl gets kidnapped.
Black Wing's little girl is found weeks later having died as a result of her injuries.
Black Wing vanishes.
Black Wing turns up weeks later having killed the paedo.
Black Wing goes to prison.
Black Wing get's early parole for good behaviour.

Well, it makes sense to me, but personally I think Rape, Child Molestation, Statutory Rape (if you're over 21) and Drink and Driving should be rewarded with a visit to the Isolation Cubes.

"Not because the severity of the crime, but simply that it's impossible to prove a crime 100%.

Take rape for example. Is it rape? Prove it."

Durring sexual intercourse a certain amount of damage is done to the vagina.  When sex is non-consentual this damage is distinct vs consentual sex.  Furthermore if a woman is drugged and then raped so no resistance is offered, and thus no distinct damage, with few exceptions traces of the drug will remain in the woman's system long enough for her to get to a hospital assuming she is not being held captive.  If a man is raped I have no idea how you could prove it.  Now admittedly mistakes are made and in the event the conviction turns out to be a mistake then of course let them go, but don't let these people go because there MIGHT have been a mistake.

"I agree on the Rape, but as for the Murder I think there are times when it is understandable if not justified, for example:

Black Wing's little girl gets kidnapped.
Black Wing's little girl is found weeks later having died as a result of her injuries.
Black Wing vanishes.
Black Wing turns up weeks later having killed the paedo.
Black Wing goes to prison.
Black Wing get's early parole for good behaviour."

Fair enough

it's silly to take vague descriptions like "rape" and "muurduurrrrr" and say zomg no leniency

the beauty of criminal law is that a judge can apply both extenuating and aggravating circumstances depending on the facts of the case; it is an option in certain legal systems to deliver a sentence which is without possibility of probation and such.

That reminds me: I must go out and mug old ladies to feed my Cannabis addiction... as soon as I can be arsed to move...

Prat

"Is it rape? Prove it"

I thought, in the right circumstances, you could be pretty much sure 100% who did it due to strength of physical evidence.  Mean, if your manly juices are swimming around inside a seriously spooked out 12-year-old schoolgirl, it's hardly a case of "Gee, now how did that get there?"

"Not always. Some women, while being raped, get physicly excited. So there's not always "damage".
These women are the ones who have the roughest time accepting and digesting it."

Forget damage to her organs. The huge majority of rapes involve beating, bruising, even fractures in the hips. There will be evidence elsewhere on the body in most cases to at least prove some sort of violent attack.

Do you know anyone who has been raped before, Loz?

"Do you guys realize the additional costs that would be incurred if plea bargains weren't around?  Every person who has indisputable evidence against them would still be tried, rather than just pleading guilty, bogging down the legal system meaninglessly.

Sure, those crimes are bad.  But a lack of pragmatic consideration of the situation is pretty bad too..."

This is where we use what I call the bad/worse scenario.  You inform said person that regardless of what they do they will go to jail; the only difference is if they plead guilty they will go to regular jail, and if they fight it they get to go to special jail that will make Auschwitz(sp?) look like a 5-Star Resort.  It may be harsh but these people are criminals; they have no rights and they deserve no consideration.

fokker just because i despise the jerks that make life miserable for other people because they cant enjoy themselves without drugs doesn't make me a prat

haha

if nerds would put as much effort into getting a nice girl as thay do into other aspects of there lives it would not be as bad .

i like most nerds use to find it hard to speak to women but college changed me a bit for the better if nerds came out of there shells more it would not be that bad thay just have to overcome there fear of the oposit sex and put there anti social behavior aside:P

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"Um... DPS, that's called a plea bargain."

Not in the traditional sense

The traditional sense is you get leniency, my way you have the choice between the maximum sentence and endless hours of work and torture with an inevitably slow and painful death; if you can find someone who thinks that's a bargain they need help.

Why is it that when IA mentioned nerd sex, I thought of the candy.