Topic: 9 player fam Strats

First as leader or as a fam your going to have to decide how many of each roles to have. The differences between fams in this area will make or break some. Will they lean more heavy on econ or war. Now we all know that these questions come up every round ,but with 9 player fams I feel like its even stronger.

A fam with 5 bankers and 4 resourcers/attackers will produce an extra 3k gc if iron prices are low enough which they always are due mainly because of ss players or unorganized fams not using from within. Some fams will start heavy resources which will pay off for the first so many ticks once those resources come in before the market drops heavy.

During expo phase this extra banker will Provide faster fam expo's and your fam will be moving along nicely. In a 9 player fam it is also important that everyone retakes.If map is spaced out and you have enough naps you may be ok in this setup. 1 dedicated resourcer and 3 attackers are gonna have to hold down a tight ship.

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2 (edited by Twilight Archon 05-Nov-2009 14:24:45)

Re: 9 player fam Strats

Jets is a retard. Don't listen to him


listen to me, the optimal strat for 9 player fams is 3 attackers 4 bankers 2 resourcers

or if you're an enterprising family, 4 attackers, 4 bankers 1 resourcer, 1 attacker also resourcing to make 2 resourcers, of course, the resourcing will have to take precedent.

now in regards to that, you have some options, you can take the rc 1 attacker like mad and build 1-2 bankers while con goes up, or you can max out with buildings for like, 5 people and use that to gain an economic boost. Another option would be to go with teams. Lastly, another option would be to go beat off on Jets, Artic and Glue in a FFA sausage cage match featuring Elr00b as the main event. (that last one is actually the one I'm sure most of you will go for)

no, seriously the first 3 are the best options for the families. I'd say if you're going to a lax round take the third option, if you're going for a good round 2nd and if you want a very interesting round, option number 1. Now my suggestion? Pick option 2, focus 2 people on cfs, or if you have a pop banker, go straight into pop (tbh it doesn't work well right away but the payoff hits around week 2 wink) focus 1 resourcer with iron 1 attacker with half endu (full if you have the rez) and 1 attacker with rc's. You get 2 bankers with decent income (assuming 1 is partax 1 is rev you will most likely be obtaining what? some 4k maybe a little over 5k a tick) around 260 iron, around 200 endu (assuming you can afford it) and 1 attacker with rc's. Now I would suggest the rc attacker to build rc's before sor and send rest to bank or the attacker so he can build his rs'.

After all comes in you get a nice boost but not as good as some. However, around week 2 if you are lucky enough and active enough this strat will probably bring ahead of most fams.



Or maybe I'm just rambling

or maybe not...who knows? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Edit: if you go straight into pop as Rev, um, I think the ratio was 1:2 lq:to I could be wrong and 1:1 but then again I never did pop banking, but I think 1:2 and if you do that you should start with around 2k/tick maybe 2.2k/tick when they come in. I forget but I might take a look into it and do some numbers when I get the chance.

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

i'd rather have 5 bankers, 2 resourcers and 2 attackers tbh. You don't need more than 2 attackers to do well, and u can fatten up the resourcers nicely so w/e

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

A lot of times those with the most fleet wins.
I feel like thier will be many different options out there.even less bankers ,but planning on getting em nice and fat for thanksgiving.

Less bankers make for a slower start which means you will be playing for behind.

Personally If i make a fam i will draft 2 other attackers and let the randoms resource/attack or bank.

If i just random I will want at least 4 bankers

I think any fam with 3 or less cash bankers will struggle for sure.

Starting pop wouldn't be the smartest idea to get off to fast start. I have seen it work out certain players can do it right solus for one of em.

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

arch is correct, as long as the 2 attackers you have are reliable. if they aren't and one or both go inactive you're kinda screwed tongue

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

y not 3 of each 3 bankers, 3 resourcers, 3 attackers..... it seems more level that way.. team every one up

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

lack of bankers will hurt during the e-phase. If you have good allies and can survive the first couple weeks. 3 super fat bankers would be fine. It would just be a slower e-phase for ya.

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

I don't like the idea of 2 attackers.  Even if they're reliable ones.

Two reasons mainly:

1) Never know when rl comes in and someone goes inactive, even if just for a few days or a week.  That'll leave you with only 1 attacker...good luck with that.

2) Later on in the round the spread in nw gets larger and larger.  You need different sized attackers to do different things, eg pass planets to your biggest banker, or kill middle range opponents or kill lower players.  It'd be silly to keep having to jump units or drop fleet depending on what needed to be done.

My set up, if I had a say would be:
- 4 Bankers (1 Pop possibly)
- 2 Resourcers (1 magic, 1 agent focussed - one may have to be a farmer depending on going pop or not)
- 3 Attackers (1 Camaar - 1 Custom - 1 whatever (maybe making some resourcers too, ie, not fully rc - in a small fam, can't have 3 attackers all no infra or just pure rc - the eco drain will be too much)).

Just my opinion.

Re: 9 player fam Strats

Starting with 2 attackers is silly as one will be away at some point you can pretty much guarantee.

Resourcers can always be converted to attackers.  Thats what we dd this round with Flashy giving away loads of big ob planets away to chrono

Re: 9 player fam Strats

but in the ICC there was so much spare cash at the start that you could fund science on two ppl the first tick. that doesnt happen normally tongue

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

Zidi, the frist round we had only 2 attackers, but we had top class ofc tongue

Think we did 4 bankers 2 resorcers and then 2 attackers

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

well i was still correct tongue

we planned on 3 but ended up with 2 then tongue or something.  blade seems correct to me

was a fun fam back there

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

Torqez agrees with my opinion, you all fail now

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

i know there was a sollissollis or something cannot remmeber, he was new but very nice

arach joined us as a replacement last round or so i think

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i was in there i think ? tongue

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

3 bankers 3 ressies and 3 attackers sounds perfect to me actually...

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4 bankers of which 1 pax, 2 ressies and 3 attackers sound better to me...

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I never been fond of the pax banker. rather have the pax be the resourcer. giving up the income bonus I never liked.

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

enjoy ur 0gc income during war time

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

im pretty new to be registering an opinion, but i think two rec.s to start till you get your first cf banker really jumped, then convert one of the res.s to an attacker, in an aggressive system it seems to help a lot to have as many good attackers as possible.

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

well, victor, the thing with that is every starts with same rez, so the idea generally is to get MORE than just one banker ;p

you'd probably be able to get 2 bankers 1 attacker rc'd up and then if you have some left overs 1 resourcer fb with mf's and/or 1 half built with rs. I'd go with RS cause i'm nuts like that, but iron is always important.

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Re: 9 player fam Strats

yeah last round i got in late and had an inactive fam, i was able to get my income to over a mill per but iron always drove me nuts (never really had enough).

I would rather be honestly damned, than hypocritically demoralized.