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natural selection is a factor of death and proliferation.  i think the whole piont of population control, however, is about proliferation of the human species and its effect on earth.

most life on Earth produce more offspring than nessessary to provide a comfort level of survival.  If the human race surpasses the comfort level, our fertility rates will drop.  Mass casulties will not occur(unless provoked by environmental cause), our species is too intelligent to fail.


just remember, for every dumbass that get himself killed without having offspring, there are 50 or so that are smart enough to adapt to the changing world.  And lets face it, the human population is so large, that we can allow for the dumbasses to get killed and entertain those of us who say "i wouldn't do that shit if i were you"

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>>"A) work out ways to produce more of what we need..."
Problem: Already done that; nobody will touch it because it is genetically-modified.<<

If it comes down to eating genetically modified food or slow death by starvation I think people will stomach it.

>>"and space to accomodate the population"
Problem: The types of buildings we would need to construct in order to do this without further damaging the world are tall, generally considered to be ugly, and are protested against by every Green Party member like they are radioactive.<<

They're only ugly because that's how we build them, they could be rather good looking if we weren't set on cookie cutter design.  As for the Green Party, I can think of no better endorsement than their dislike.

>>"B) We'll overgrow the planets support capacity and begin to starve."
Or the stress will break our collective psychology and we'll dop something lemming-ish, like turn on ourselves.<<

Which would generate the same end result, massive loss of human life bringing our population down to a more manageable number.

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population prediction can be VERY inaccurate.

in the 1960s they thought the UK would be over 70million by now.

I've studied demographics as a part of my history course and time and time again population projections turn out to be wrong.

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has anyone ever heard of the "Venus Project"?

if not, you can probably find a video of it on youtube.  its related to the "Zeitgiest Movement"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Y363-gPX8

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I'm against condoms >=|


Just pull it out quick enough, cum in your hand, spit on her back and play spiderman.

This forum is stupid.

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lol, i'm gonna have to try that tonight, thanks for the idea mrblonde, big_smile

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Weirdos. That nonsense is the mental masturbation of retards who determined that the real world is too difficult for them to navigate, so they gratify themselves in fantasy land with similar-minded retards incapable of coping with the real world. Take it somewhere else. You're an embarrassment to the IC community.

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> EmperorHez wrote:
> population prediction can be VERY inaccurate.
in the 1960s they thought the UK would be over 70million by now. <

I'm curious, what is our population right now?

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why so serious about some people joking around? this is just a computer forum.  in real world, i'm a very serious soldier.  it just so happens that some people use games and forums such as IC to escape the problems of real life for even just a minute.

now, back on topic. Is anyone worried about longterm effects of the DEPO shot? my ex-wife just got it two days ago and i'm not sure if its heathy enough.  i hate her guts, however she is still raising my kids, i dont want anything to happen(longterm effect)

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What the hell is the DEPO shot and how is it related to this topic?

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DEPO is a form of birth control.  99.9% effective and they inject it in the meaty part of the female ass.  it also last longer that traditional birth control(i think 3 months)

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sorry this is a little late
Zarf BeebleBrix wrote

Even if you dispute these percentages, I have a 1% population growth check (double the number on the statistics I provided).  The total population in 2040 according to that?  80,870,934.  Yes, a 33% jump.  However, the economy is also growing with that, providing resources for those people.  And this is still nowhere near 150 million.  In fact, at 1% growth, it took 91 years for the population to grow to 150 million.

However, the economy is also growing with that, providing resources for those people.



no just because an economy grows doesnt mean that the natural resources of the world grow with it ... it is thinking like this that has allowed the world as a whole to get to the point it is at now ... we simple can not sustain where we are now ...


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"we simple can not sustain where we are now ..."

Thank you for your input. You are wrong. Move along.

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i think Earth is a planet the can support up to 10 billion humans. however the lifestyle of americans brings that number to mabye 7 billion.  with almost 400mil americans on a planet with a total population of almost 7bil(approx) it seems valid enough to worry about resources and effects of over-population on earth, however i think we are fine for now. also, technology is growing faster than our population, the human ability for survival will create situations where we can sustain our vast numbers comfortably until we finish terraforming mars.

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Don't worry, the American lifestyle is going to go downhill fast. Consumption will not be sustained with a tanked dollar and economy.

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So... the way to deal with overpopulation and the possibility of over-straining the Earth to breaking point is to curb consumerism?

(I'd ask you to back up your other point but apparently we don't do that here anymore)

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> RavnosUnderspire wrote:

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no just because an economy grows doesnt mean that the natural resources of the world grow with it ... it is thinking like this that has allowed the world as a whole to get to the point it is at now ... we simple can not sustain where we are now ...


until every drop of water and every grain of food is being used by humans, the ability for technology to increase the amount of humans the earth can support still exists.

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You are aware that the Earth is finite, and therefore any natural resources are also finite, right? I ask because I get the impression from your post that you see them as infinite, or at least not finite enough for you to worry about it.

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> &#9773; Fokker wrote:

> You are aware that the Earth is finite, and therefore any natural resources are also finite, right? I ask because I get the impression from your post that you see them as infinite, or at least not finite enough for you to worry about it.


i am aware the earth is finite. the thing is that we are utilizing nowhere near all of the earth. so to say that technology cant increase the amount of humans the earth can support is nonsense, because technology can help us utilize more of the earth, which would allow the earth to support more humans...

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> avogadro wrote:
> > &#9773; Fokker wrote:
> You are aware that the Earth is finite, and therefore any natural resources are also finite, right? I ask because I get the impression from your post that you see them as infinite, or at least not finite enough for you to worry about it.


i am aware the earth is finite. the thing is that we are utilizing nowhere near all of the earth. so to say that technology cant increase the amount of humans the earth can support is nonsense, because technology can help us utilize more of the earth, which would allow the earth to support more humans... <


...And less of God's creatures.
  I would think a Christian (of any sort) would have more respect for God's creation, regardless of how they define being given "dominion" of a world.

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> &#9773; Fokker wrote:

> > avogadro wrote:
> > &#9773; Fokker wrote:
> You are aware that the Earth is finite, and therefore any natural resources are also finite, right? I ask because I get the impression from your post that you see them as infinite, or at least not finite enough for you to worry about it.


i am aware the earth is finite. the thing is that we are utilizing nowhere near all of the earth. so to say that technology cant increase the amount of humans the earth can support is nonsense, because technology can help us utilize more of the earth, which would allow the earth to support more humans... <


...And less of God's creatures.
  I would think a Christian (of any sort) would have more respect for God's creation, regardless of how they define being given "dominion" of a world.


nice way of trying to change the topic when you are wrong...

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Explain how the topic changed.
Then explain what it was about my post that upset you so much you had to attempt to change the discussion into a personal flaming war.

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You went from sustainable population limits to "well what if that takes up space that ants and badgers were living in???" Pretty much accepting that he's right.

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Noth that I was talking to you, but:

When did I do that?
Quote me exactly, word for word.

To be honest I just want Avogadro to explain to me what on this worthless ball of rock makes him think we can copy god and simply make everything out of dirt when we've used up all available resources, but I doubt that will happen.

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