Avo seems very angry today.

> EmperorHez wrote:

as for some guy called Dahani going round the world- who cares? he played for a National Division 2 team in England. big deal! Nat Div 2 is the third tier in England. the Guinness Premiership being tier 1. Nat Div 1 being tier 2.

he had like a week of practice, thats the big deal. sure he wasnt the first tier after a week of practice, so what? the point is a american football players is not physically gimped while playing rugby despite him specializing for a completely different sport.

> EmperorHez wrote:

> the videos of Jonah Lomu are not representative of rugby in general.

That's why I included a lot of videos.

> as a sport it turned professional in 1995. Jonah Lomu happened to be a huge player 6' 5" in an era when the game was mainly amateur and fellow wingers were often no taller than 5'10".

Nope it wasn't amateur when he was playing. I'm not going to go around looking for height of other wingers, but at 6'5" he's going to be at least as tall as most of the locks, and he's pushed them off just the same.

> he was rumored to have used drugs to boost his muscle

That is the biggest peice of shyte I have ever heard. You think a guy that required dialysis (due to Nephrotic syndrome) would take drugs.

that's all I can be bothered with in this thread. So many people teaming up to show avo and Balsz that they don't know what they are talking about. It's beautiful.

> Archangel wrote:

> im not quite following which side you're on avogadro

i dont pick sides, i just attack stupid arguments

"I count 6 cases in Rugby, and 10% of the NFL. Im not wasting time investigating this, but thats what 5min dragged up. Yup they say `now banned` so perhaps they wouldnt have taken them if they were banned when those retired players were still in the game. Who knows. Just presenting the info on this one."

you have 6 cases in rugby and 3 in the nfl. there is no equivalent survey with rugby players so you cant use the survey in the comparison, are you always this stupid? also its 10% is of retired, meaning not now, the testing has probably gotten stricter acting as a deterrant to banned drug use, the survey doesnt mean anything for current league, also, banned substance does not mean its steroids, there are alot of non-steroid substances banned in athletic leagues.

> Archangel wrote:

> ok so it wasnt steroids, but why does that matter? it was most likely something with a similar effect.

> avogadro wrote:

> > i dont pick sides, i just attack stupid arguments

> avogadro wrote:

> "I count 6 cases in Rugby, and 10% of the NFL. Im not wasting time investigating this, but thats what 5min dragged up. Yup they say `now banned` so perhaps they wouldnt have taken them if they were banned when those retired players were still in the game. Who knows. Just presenting the info on this one."

you have 6 cases in rugby and 3 in the nfl. there is no equivalent survey with rugby players so you cant use the survey in the comparison, are you always this stupid? also its 10% is of retired, meaning not now, the testing has probably gotten stricter acting as a deterrant to banned drug use, the survey doesnt mean anything for current league, also, banned substance does not mean its steroids, there are alot of non-steroid substances banned in athletic leagues.

I didn`t read all of your dribble, because you didn`t read what I said. I quoted it above, let me try again here:

*Im not wasting time investigating this, but thats what 5min dragged up.*
*Yup they say `now banned` so perhaps they wouldnt have taken them if they were banned when those retired players were still in the game.*
*Who knows. Just presenting the info (I found in 5min) on this one*

If you won't tell me what you think what are you posting, psychic transmissions from Doctor Who?

Let's have the complete roster of the NFL up instead of 1 lineup from 1 team

You don't grab onto padding when you tackle in American Football, you get low, hit them in the midsection, wrap them up and take them down.  Only a poor player takes them down by the pads, hardly ever seen even in high school football.

FYI: Football is for girls. Sorry, but its a horrible, horrible sport.

"Look at me! I can run from one end of a patch of grass to another with an object! Woo!"

As for the Gridiron vs. Rugby:

They are two different sports.

Gridiron: You wear an abundance of armour.

Rubgy: You cry like a bitch when someone tackles you without the ball.

"Oh puhleze mister, i've not gotten the ball, you can't hurt meh!"

Avogadro, refrain from using banned language, this is a warning

btw, irony anybody?

"dont pick sides, i just attack stupid arguments"