At least one british hospital in London is as horrible as the british food. after a week of that disgusting "food" my digestion and my circulatory system were ruined and after a breakdown i was brought by ambulence to a hospital in London. i got an injection and was placed in the waitingroom and there i waited and waited and waited... There was a man rushing in and out, bleeding all over his head but no one cared. People were sitting around me, sweating of pain, moaning, crying. No one cared. Must have been 30-40 people. After a few hours i capitulated, took my ruined body, left that third world hospital and somehow managed to survive until home in germany where good hospital treatment is assured. I never visited the UK after that again.

Einstein...
As i said before... its a myth that waiting times are a typicall thing in NHS. It differs from country to country.
For the country i can really judge (germany) i have never been confrontet with long waiting times... if i needed care i allways got it without having to wait a long time.
I also said that the UK has one of the worst systems within the EU.
As firewing said.. in germany he got the treatment he needed without any problems.
Germany has NHS too...

Does no one understand that you can not generalize NHS as bad????

there was a large clock on the wall and i had nothing to do as to stare on it for hours and hours. The guy was bleeding on his head and so much that it was everywhere. at least he needed help to stop the bleeding, but no one cared.

You were at the back of the queue and sat waiting for a long time because you were clearly not an emergency case. You had already had an injection which suggests that you had been assessed and given some treatment (I don't think the receptionists give out injections do they?) and it was decided that you were a low priority case.

As for the guy bleeding everywhere, that is clearly unhygienic and I obviously can't comment properly on an individual unsubstantiated case but I would expect that people losing blood would be seen to fairly swiftly to apply bandages or if necessary stitches to stop the bleeding. Especially as I believe a nurse can do that. If someone bleeding isn't seen to quickly then I agree, that is poor. However, your unsubstantiated anecdote is not evidence of a failing system.

But there are inconsistencies in Firewing's eyewitness account. He says that his digestive and circulatory system were ruined by British food, which I find unlikely. He claims he had to wait hours for treatment but also says he had an injection apparently quite quickly. If the bleeding man was losing as much blood as Firewing insinuates then he likely would not still be alive, can anyone really bleed heavily over a number of hours without being in serious trouble i.e. dead? He clearly exaggerrated when he described it as a third world hospital and claimed to have a ruined body. Therefore Firewing's eye witness evidence is clearly flawed and inaccurate.

I'm sure there is a kernel of truth and he did have a bad experience of an A&E department. However it is insufficient evidence of a failing system by such a long way that it is inconsequential. It is impossible to work out what the truth of the experience was and it is also impossible to tell the circumstances surrounding it. Had there just been a 15 car pile up on the motorway which had swamped the A&E department with actual emergencies? OK, this is unlikely but the point is it is impossible to know what happened to make Firewing's wait so long.

Firewing's account is inconsistent, clearly exaggerated and incomplete, so call it evidence if you like, but I couldn't exactly see it standing up in court the way it is written there.

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> At least one british hospital in London is as horrible as the british food. after a week of that disgusting "food" my digestion and my circulatory system were ruined and after a breakdown i was brought by ambulence to a hospital in London. i got an injection and was placed in the waitingroom and there i waited and waited and waited... There was a man rushing in and out, bleeding all over his head but no one cared. People were sitting around me, sweating of pain, moaning, crying. No one cared. Must have been 30-40 people. After a few hours i capitulated, took my ruined body, left that third world hospital and somehow managed to survive until home in germany where good hospital treatment is assured. I never visited the UK after that again. <

1: Serves you right for eating our food. We all eat Thai, Italian, and Indian food for a damn good reason.

2: It's LONDON, what the hell were you expecting? Floors paved with gold? It's 21st century city running on 19th century infrastructure.

3: If you can walk, cry, moan, or sit taking notes: YOU DONT NEED HELP!.

It's interesting to note that despite war crimes committed on Dresden, Berlin, the cities are still remarkably better than those of the perpetrators.

And you're saying all buildings in the large cities in the U.S. of A. were built  before the 20th century?

Ah, well... true