China is modernizing its military at an alarming rate, nobody knows their true defence budget because much like the old USSR they move funds around from different areas and keep  true spending a secret- but their official defence budget has been rising. Their building new submarines, tanks planes etc it's got America worried.

so I guess Australia is too.

"We don't need 12 more submarines..."

oh yes you do.
and you need these ones:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212_submarine

you need them! because we need your money!

no, you need these ones
http://www.internetbeyond.com/yellow%20submarine.jpg

Building nukes would be much cheaper.
Or you still have that nuclear free hippie activism there in down under?

its called the nuclear non-proliferation treaty- Australia is a signatory of it.

plus barack obama  in office he's not going to support a nuclear australia even if he wants, to, its against his policy & the treaty.

yeah I was like, you stil abide that treaty?

if you broke the treaty Obama would rush down there and apologize

so yeah, I guess that's a reason to keep it

I'm starting to notice, the more loyal and helpful an ally you are to America, the more Democrats piss on you with the confidence you'll drink it smiling

sure we can, you speak english.

if you really wanted nukes and said you were gonna get some and throw the US military out of Australia, i think you'd see Washington turn a blind eye to your nukes and pay whatever you wanted to let us stay

im happy for any country to become more powerful. i really hate US sticking their ass to every country's internal businesses and to tell them what is right and what is wrong. and please stop crying about chinese military budget. US is spending much much much higher any chinese government and so far all i see is US using their military power to push other countries around. yup you call that peaceful development............................how about kiss my ass? or and i forgot the most importatn point, "only US is allowed to build and spend shit load of cash on mililary".

and im happy that australia is building up military too. i dont care if australia is worried about china or not, as long as australia stop relying on US and kissing up US ass like that old fool john howard (however you spell his name, hate him that i dont even want to learn to type his name properly) did. i didnt hate bush as much as i hate howard..........................in fact i thought bush is pretty funny for the mistakes he made  .

hahahaaha and i got some free cash from kevin rudd, off to spend it . to be honest i dont think cash bonus is going to boost economy that much. better off spending it somewher more useful.

I'm guessing Zimbabwe.

They'll be made in China and Chinese Migs will have a off button

sure 100 jets defend all Oz...google "Marianas Turkey Shoot"

> sKoE )= wrote:

> Also i'm yet to see why we need 100 new jets and 12 new subs...Who the **** is going to
invade us? Okay, i understand the government wants to rely on the U.S. less. Yes, i understand
the government thinks China will eventually be #1 go-to-or-get-stomped-on guy in the pacific
region -- but what is 100 jets going to do?!?

And please don't even THINK 100 jets is going to defend the entire Australian continent against China,
or the U.S, or Russia...If any of those powers decide they want our valuable resources by force, we're
****ed.

Between this and an absurdly miscreated $1000 bonus the Australian labour government has screwed
us over again...

Correction, make that 100 F-22s, and you have a significant advantage. Or 300 F-35s. 300 supported by two carriers would be ideal.

Also the Aussie SAS or whatever they are called these days would be able to make mincemeat of China's infrastructure (e.g. blow up all the refineries, everyone starves, blow up the nuke plants, everyone glows), including psych-based attacks that would instill fear, panic and anger in the populace. They are comparatively docile being in such a controlled environment as China, so they would panic once the government looked like it couldn't help them.