Topic: You are a right wing extremist!

There is an effort to destroy Conservatism, and this is from The Department of Homeland Security as well as other 'law enforcement groups'



Note this text closely:

http://www.gordonunleashed.com/HSA%20-%20Rightwing%20Extremism%20-%2009%2004%2007.pdf



Other State level enforcement groups have done some outrageous things also.


Having a Ron Paul bumper sticker is considered proof of extremism in Missouri. In the Missouri Information Analysis Center report there were many things which would label you as an extremist.


Ron Pauls campaign manager was detained for having carrying cash. http://www.justgetthere.us/blog/archives/MIAC-Incident-Ron-Paul-Organizer-Detained-at-MO-Airport.html
Even if it was obvious even to a blind man the checks were made out to a political organization...




If you dont like abortions you are an extremist.

If you are a Veteran, you are an extremist.

If you like guns and ammo, especially if you buy more than 1000 rounds in a year, you are an extremist.

If your afraid of the future of our nations economy, your an extremist.

If you are upset at the ending of the United States as the leading power you are an extremist.

If you are against gun control laws you are an extremist.

If you are against illegal immigration you are extremist.

If you are a Ron Paul supporter you are an extremist.

If you believe in the Constitution you are an Extremist (This was not on thier list)




But if you are any of those (except the last which was not yet added) you are ALSO a WHITE SUPREMACIST!


Yes this is all in that report.



And you wonder why the Right is screaming so loudly? If we had said membership in ACORN was proof of Leftist Extremism and of violence and crime you would have screamed as well. Can you not see what you have put in our office?

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Re: You are a right wing extremist!

That article isn't even talking about conservatives!  It's talking about groups like neo-Nazis, the KKK, and other militant groups in the US.  Unless you're arguing that the KKK is mainstream conservatism (not one word, Deci), you're safe.  tongue

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wow i find that document hard to believe even from a screw up like obama

is there a link to this document from any official websites? (.gov) otherwise i'd think that document is just a joke

if it is real though, i guess i'ma right wing extremist ><

i'll kill you...

Re: You are a right wing extremist!

I don't get it.  It doesn't seem that extreme.


Look, neo-Nazis and the KKK are generally referred to as "extreme right-wing" groups.  In just the same way, a communist terrorist group or ELF are considered "left-wing extremist" groups.  It doesn't mean conservatives need to put these guys under their banner and say "Hey, they may be racists, but they're OUR racists!"  They can be rejected, even though there's a label on them that may associate them with conservatism.



The issue isn't that people hold beliefs such as an opposition to NAFTA.  The issue is that groups like these are willing to take up arms and literally fight the government on the issue, rather than working within the system.

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They say if you believe those stances you may be a right wing extremist.


Yes this is the truth.


It was leaked from dozens of Police Agencies, and has been around the news for a week. Those police agencies were all sent it with the statement "not for public disclosure"



THIS IS HOW EXTREME THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS! They will label everyone not following his every word as an extremist!

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: You are a right wing extremist!

Zarf you are wrong.

This is not listing just those who would use violence, but those who oppose the administration on a number of grounds.

Yes they use a lot of 'incidents'. but they do not include the proper disclaimers if they were trying to show otherwise.

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Re: You are a right wing extremist!

Care to find the quote?  I read it through.


Now, I did find that it said, "people with these views may join these groups," but... duh!  Do you think Nolio is going to join the KKK?  Let's face it: Certain groups manipulate conservative ideals to achieve ends that are undesirable.


It's like writing an article that says, "Muslims may increasingly join groups like Al Qaeda."  Is it saying all Muslims are terrorists?  No.  It's saying that Muslims are the group most likely to join a group like Al Qaeda since Al Qaeda shares their views.

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Re: You are a right wing extremist!

> Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:

> I don't get it.  It doesn't seem that extreme.


Look, neo-Nazis and the KKK are generally referred to as "extreme right-wing" groups.  In just the same way, a communist terrorist group or ELF are considered "left-wing extremist" groups.  It doesn't mean conservatives need to put these guys under their banner and say "Hey, they may be racists, but they're OUR racists!"  They can be rejected, even though there's a label on them that may associate them with conservatism.



The issue isn't that people hold beliefs such as an opposition to NAFTA.  The issue is that groups like these are willing to take up arms and literally fight the government on the issue, rather than working within the system.



i would agree except for:

(U//FOUO) The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of
military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities
could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists
capable of carrying out violent attacks.
* (U) Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and
adherents that are

(alright this is nazi/kkk) primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups),
and those that are mainly antigovernment,

rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or
rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a
single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

^^does that sound like the kkk or nazis to you? sounds like the definition of republican to me

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Re: You are a right wing extremist!

Um... they still fall under the additional umbrella criterion that they have to first fit under "terrorist group" or a group that's carrying out violent acts.


Rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority?  Yeah, there's some militant groups, especially in rural communities, that advocate that.

Anarchist groups?  Um... okay!

And the single issue ones?  Go specifically to abortion.  Does the average Republican advocate bombing abortion clinics?



As for the firearm thing, think about it: You're a dedicated Republican who believes that our right to bear arms is a check created by the Founding Fathers to prevent tyranny.  New gun restrictions are placed.  Some extremist group responds to this and says "look, remember what we said?  The NEW WORLD ORDER is coming!"  Yeah, I agree with it.  New gun restrictions are a formula for people who value their guns to step outside the law and embrace extreme right wing terrorism for fear of the government confirming their worst fears.

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Re: You are a right wing extremist!

"THIS IS HOW EXTREME THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS! They will label everyone not following his every word as an extremist!"


sorry.. but its really same as bush administration does.,.,.. they labeled everyoen not followinh their every word as terrorist and anti american.
it seems to have become popular in politics to put much effort into denouncing the opponent instead of supporting your own ideas.
sad if u ask me.. but same all over the world.. and not a question of left or right.
it also is happening in this forum more and more

Re: You are a right wing extremist!

flint, have you gone completly crazy? at least Zarf has some intelligence to read and understand...

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Re: You are a right wing extremist!

No there was a report by this dept on racial extremists in september and a report on left wing extremists in february. I will post links when I get to a pc.

These two reports name organizations and their crimes. They identify convictions of military members who sold arms to racial extremist groups.they cited examples of ads one of these groups took in protest of amnesty for illegal aliens.

They pointed out that named leftist groups have argued cyberterror is a justifiable and necessary tactic to create a financial incentive for corporations to follow the leftist ecological values. It again names names and give examples, and warns that the leftist extremists often work alone.

This report does not give details of criminal acts. It does not name these right wing ideologue extremists. It does not tell the local cops who read it what crimes they could be watching for. It just assures them the federal govt considers the KKK and other racial groups to be separate of other right wing extremists who are motivated by political causes, and local law enforcement should watch out for increased activity and chatter about abortion, gun rights, "pro enforcement" immigration, federal govt expansion, loss of national authority to world organizations, and opposition to race based set asides. Because sure as shootin, there's sinister webs aweaving behind all that!

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