Re: Israel Vs Iran
If no other countries backed either one it'd be close but israel would likely come out on top.
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If no other countries backed either one it'd be close but israel would likely come out on top.
I hate these threads.
1: It all depends on key questions not provided in this:
A: When? Before or after Iran finishes their nuclear program? How is the oil market?
B: How? Who attacks first? Or do both countries get together and say "Hey, let's start a war at X:00 PM. Ready, set, go!"
C: Why? Civilian input into the war effort is heavily based on the justification for the war. A random, seemingly aggressive war will see the people rise up in riots or possibly coups to unseat the leadership, whereas a loyal population can easily turn the tide in warfare.
Isreal, simply because they already have nukes that we know will reach Iran and will work.
Also, Isreals conventional millitary could tear the entire region apart. Afterwards though it would be a mess to control.
I disagree with you Zarf on the claim that civilian input into the war effort is heavily based upon the justification for the war. Those who sympathize with Iran will defend its soverignty and right to openly call for the violent destruction of Israel and the west and develop nuclear weapons. Those who sympathize with Israel/the West will defend their protecting themselves from a nation which openly states that the end of the West is near and is open about desiring an active role in making that end violent and soon.
Frankly, whatever other cultural values I may think this or that about, I do not respect cultures which mutilate their women. Kill 'em all.
Would be a good fight as long as the spectators don't join in.
Isreal threatening to bomb Iran is like the Pope threatening to pray on Good Friday.
Jeez your stupid Skoe.
Syria yes, Turkey, no. No need for Turkey. Lebanon yes, Saudi Arabia? No.
Egypt would not, nor Jordan.
Politics in the region have shifted a bit. Saudi Arabia will have nothing to do with Iran or Syria, Egypt has still got the fear of Israel and a military not of Israeli or Egyptian forces still parked in the Gobi, Jordan is a to small and to ineffective, with good relations anyhow with Israel and the west, Iraq cannot join in with American forces camped inside their lands, and Dubai would rather see 100% of Iran dead than anything else in the world right now. So that eliminates all but a few players
Turkey will allow Israeli airforces through their nation on strikes on Iran, as per their military treaty. Palestinians will launch missiles everywhere and hit the fences as hard as they can, but few Israeli ground forces will be used against Iran, mostly special forces. Syria will go ballistic cause they will then be left without an ally in the whole region, expect them to get hammered by the Israeli ground forces. Perhaps Israel, in a game of realpolitik might convince Turkey they can have the Kurdish regions of Syria if they help... but I doubt it, but the threat of it would keep half of Syria's forces at that border.
Lebanon would see Hezbollah use EVERYTHING THEY HAVE, as hard and quickly as they could get it down. Sadly for them the Israeli fighters will be flying overhead and seeing targets as they do so, which will hamper their efforts significantly.
In fact if Israel needs to they can work with certain resistance groups in Iran, similar to how the United States worked with the Northern Alliance. While these groups are much smaller, much less organized and equipped, a sudden gift of a billion dollars in weapons might make a lot of family members join those resistance groups asap. Israelis are the best spies after all, and they KNOW who is resisting Iran inside Iran.
Things will get uglier as Israel starts destroying the little economy that Iran has outside of Oil as per their standard practices. Power plants, industrial centers, military bases, all of this will be bombed 10 times as much as needed, just to show how upset the Israeli's are to have to fight at all. No stone standing will be their plan.
Iran will initially shut down all oil shipping to try to drive the world to stop the war. This is Irans only real ace in the hole.
However Israel will still complete the 'required' objectives with ease.
Actually as a security expert and a Veteran with some experience in the field of the military, I have infinitely more capabilities than you do.
I can vouch that Egypt will do NOTHING. That so long as Israel shows restraint against Syria (In other words not occupying their nation outright) there is no way Jordan, Kuwait, Iraq, or Saudi Arabia will do ANYTHING.
Yes Obama is a wild card, he might doom himself to be impeached by shooting down some Israeli fighters. Otherwise he wont have any effect unless he orders our fighters to engage Iranian targets.
I stand by my analysis as I know the different factions and their feelings. Hell Saudi Arabia is starting a nuclear program soon if no action is taken against Iran as a self defense measure. So is Egypt and other nations in the region are talking ugly if Iran makes a nuke about making their own.
You want a whole middle east nuclear armed? Stop the Israelis.
Actually as a security expert and a Veteran with some experience in the field of the military, I have infinitely more capabilities than you do.
Ive got to wonder what you did that made you a expert!
Also, didnt the military boot you out becouse you weren't up to physical standards?
A security guard at burger king skipped me in line once
"Actually as a security expert and a Veteran with some experience in the field of the military, I have infinitely more capabilities than you do. "
LMFAO.
Damn I almost Died laughing
Bwhahahah at Flint
"just posted because I saw the report on CNN of Israel threatening a preemptive strike on Irans nuclear program did anyone else see that?"
Where you have you been the past 50 years? ![]()
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