Hmm nice, but i dont agree on all
here are my feelings on some of these subjects
One of the most compelling reasons for Western Allied assistance to the Soviet Union was the incredible heavy losses of weapons and equipment caused by the German invasion. The following few examples illustrate the severity of the Russian losses. The percentage of Weapons available, lost by Soviet Forces during 1941:
56% of all Small-arms and Machine guns.
69% of all Anti-Tank guns.
59% of all Field guns and Mortars.
72% of all Tanks.
34% of all Combat Aircraft.
Approximately 20,000 Tanks and 10,000 Combat Aircraft were lost by Soviet forces in this period.
The Response Of The Western Allies
All of these factors, combined with suffering the above heavy combat losses, obviously caused serious shortfalls of equipment for the Soviet armed forces during their initial year of the war with Germany. From the Western Allied point of view something needed to be done if the Soviets were going to keep up the fight against the Germans. When Stalin met with the Western Allies, after forming an uneasy alliance with them, he asked for their assistance. The British and the Americans both stepped in to keep Russia in the war. This was done even though the Allies and especially the Soviets had been suspicious of each other's intentions since before the Russo-German Non-Aggression Pact of 1939. The existing American program of Lend-Lease was now extended to include the Soviet Union with other nations in the war to defeat the Germans. Throughout the war attempts by the Western Allies to coordinate war production with the Soviets were also frustrated by Stalin's suspicions and secrecy. The U.S. and British basically agreed that Russians could order what they needed and the Allies would do their best to get the war material to Russia. This was done by direct convoys to Murmansk, overland through Iran, and from Alaska to the Soviet Far East. The large number of cargo ships moving long distances through dangerous waters resulted in the German U-boats and Luftwaffe sometimes extracting a heavy price for getting the material to Russia. The American and British shipments most notably in the Northern Arctic route resulted in the loss of 58 ships and damage to many others. That was just over 7% of all ships that sailed to Russia. These shipping losses and damage to others, represented a loss of approximately 5,000 vehicles, 4,000 aircraft and over 200,000 tons of other war materials.
Despite this most of the Lend-Lease materials that were sent in 1941-42 were received when they were needed the most. Additionally, some of the equipment and materials were sent without that much regard as to how useful it would be. While the shipments included much equipment the British and Americans considered to be obsolescent or obsolete, the Russians were for the most part grateful to receive it. Most items were put to use by the Soviets despite disparaging comments about some of the tanks, aircraft and anti-tank guns. After the war the Soviets were more forthcoming about the more useful items. Explosive materials, 100+ octane aviation fuel, trucks, waterproof telephone wire and radios had in particular played an important part in the War against the Germans.
Lend-Lease Artillery Shipments
The Russians felt that they had sufficient production of field artillery and mortars, and knew their production would increase due to manufacturing facilities resuming output after being relocated to the Urals and Siberia. They did need AA and AT guns more urgently but after receiving the first shipments of British and American AT guns they were not impressed with them. The Soviets did not request any further numbers of them. The Soviets were however satisfied with the Allied anti-aircraft guns and requested them to supplement the low numbers of Soviet AA guns produced through-out the war. Factors that resulted in desiring Allied AA guns were probably due to receiving them with superior aiming equipment than their own and Soviet difficulties in manufacturing AA guns.
British Gun Shipments Qty. Shipped Qty. Received
the planes arrived, usually when pilots delivered them. All of the arrived
numbers are an educated guess, due to incomplete bookkeeping,
shipping losses and contradictory sources.
As mentioned earlier the Allies shipped a total of 476,000 tons of 100 octane aviation fuel that was also one of the more important items received. Production of this fuel was necessary to considerably enhance aircraft performance. It required sophisticated refining equipment and advanced techniques of production that the Soviets were short of.
Lend-Lease Military Equipment Misc.
5.5 Million Combat boots
23 million yards of army cloth for uniforms, etc.
Misc. rucksacks, bedding, blankets, tents and cots
Misc. saddles, harnesses and 93,000 tons of jute.
And the most valuable of item of all: gold braid to decorate their Soviet uniforms
Lend-Lease Communications, Rail and Naval Equipment
Over 2 million feet of waterproof telephone wire sent. This was a very important commodity that requires precise quality control standards. The Russian-made wire on the other hand, was substandard and had a reputation for always having a leak or short in it somewhere. The Lend-Lease cable was considerably more reliable. Since the Russians preferred using wire communications over wireless radios (so the Germans could not listen in on them) it was considered one of the more valuable items.
56,500 field telephones and 245,000 wireless radios for field and vehicle use.
1,000 locomotives and 250,000 tons of steel rails.
Miscellaneous Rail switching and signaling equipment.
520 Ships, tugs, barges and miscellaneous vessels that included 4 older Capital Ships, 33 Subchasers, 22 Minesweepers and 12 Gunboats.
1,111 - 20mm naval AA guns as well as several hundred torpedoes.
Lend-Lease Misc. Raw Materials, Tooling, Construction And Mfg. Equipment
1.2 million tons of steel in the form of slabs
quantities. So the tank had to be improvised, having a 75mm gun mounted to one side of the body, and a small turret with a 37mm gun. The armor was riveted together due to the casting problem. Unfortunately it was found out if the tank hull was struck by a shell, even if it did not penetrate the armor, it would result in rivets popping off into the interior of the tank. This caused high crew casualties. Additionally the Grant was rather tall and thus an easy German target. The Soviets used it anyway, despite the depressing nickname "a grave for seven brothers". The U.S. eventually solved the casting problem and decided to produce a more improved tank known as the M4 Sherman.
Lend-Lease Motor Transport
The most important vehicles that the Allies supplied were trucks and jeeps. Soviet manufactured trucks were copies of 1930-era designs and did not have the cross-country abilities of the more modern vehicles provided by the Allies. The amounts shipped to Russia included; 197,825 - 1 1/2 ton trucks, 210,000 - 2 1/2 ton trucks, 12,000 jeeps and automobiles, 52,000 motorcycles, 4,000 ordinance and fuel hauling vehicles, 8,000 trailers, and 2 million miscellaneous tires.
The Soviets produced an estimated 281,500 trucks during the War, and made use of many captured vehicles. The Allies sent just over 400,000 trucks, these higher quality Lend-Lease trucks greatly facilitated Soviets in mounting offensives at a faster pace, that eventually got them to Berlin. Without them they undoubtedly would have had to manufacture trucks instead of AFV's and other equipment, causing the War in the East to be prolonged. For example: In Koniev's initial offensive in April 1945 to take Berlin, 15,000 of the 18,000 trucks in his Motor Transport Regiments moving ammunition and food around and to the front were Lend-Lease trucks.
Lend-Lease Aircraft And Fuel
The Soviets produced an estimated 101,000 combat aircraft during the War, supplementing their airforce with an estimated 15,000 following list of Lend-Lease aircraft:
Single-Engine Fighters Shipped Lost In Transit Arrived
P-39/P-400 Aircobra 4,719 Unknown 3,200 est.
P-40F Kittyhawk 4,017 Unknown 2,975 est.
P-47C Thunderbolt 195 0 195
P-63 King Cobra 2,456 67 2,389
British Hurricane 2,952 Unknown 2,250 est.
British Spitfire 1,331 Unknown 1,000 est.
Twin-Engine Aircraft
A-20 Havoc (Various Versions) 2,908 Unknown 2,600 est.
As mentioned earlier the Allies shipped a total of 476,000 tons of 100 octane aviation fuel that was also one of the more important items received. Production of this fuel was necessary to considerably enhance aircraft performance. It required sophisticated refining equipment and advanced techniques of production that the Soviets were short of.
Lend-Lease Military Equipment Misc.
5.5 Million Combat boots
23 million yards of army cloth for uniforms, etc.
Misc. rucksacks, bedding, blankets, tents and cots
Additionally, the Allies shipped 2,400 miscellaneous field guns and mortars, 81,000 machine guns (both field and aircraft types), and misc. flame-throwers, rifles, pistols, hand grenades and mines.
Lend-Lease Ammunition And Explosives
The Allies supplied 317,000 tons of explosive materials including 22 million shells that was equal to just over half of the total Soviet production of approximately 600,000 tons. Additionally the Allies supplied 103,000 tons of toluene, the primary ingredient of trinitrotoluene (more commonly known as TNT) while Soviet manufacture totaled 116,000 tons. If the Allies had not shipped these amounts of explosive materials, the Soviets undoubtedly would have had even more serious ammunition problems in addition to all their other shortcomings. The Soviet's ammunition shortages, mainly early in the war, caused them to be conservative with artillery shells and reinforced the use of their field guns in direct fire mode. This was done even though it brought greater risk to the artillery crews and their guns. The shortage of radios, field telephones, faulty communications wire further exacerbated the Soviet lack of artillery flexibility until the Allies provided more communications equipment. The Allies shipped, in addition to explosives and ammunition, 991 million miscellaneous shell cartridges to speed up the manufacturing of ammunition.
Lend-Lease Armored Fighting Vehicles
There were differences in opinions as far as lend-lease tanks were concerned. The Kremlin officials were generally happy with them initially to bridge shortfalls between Russian production quotas and their heavy combat losses. The Soviet tankers who used them on the other hand, had a fair share of disparaging comments in particular for the British tanks and the U.S. Grant tank. When the Soviets received some of the more advanced tank models like the M4 Sherman/76 they began to realize that some Allied tanks had some features that were superior to their own. Allied tanks that had a stabilized gun, radio, and were very reliable vehicles made a great impression on the Russians.
ARMORED FIGHTING VEHICLES QTY. SHIPPED LOST AT SEA QTY. ARRIVED
Bren Carriers 2,560 224 2336
M3 Halftracks 1,178 Unknown 900 est.
M3A1 Scout Cars 3,340 228 3092
M15A1 .37mm AA Guns 100 0 100
M17 4 X .50 AA Guns 1,000 Unknown 900 est.
T48 57mm A-T Gun Carriage 650 Unknown 575
M10 76mm Tank Destroyer 52 0 52
M3A1 Stuart 1,676 443 1233
Valentine 3,807 320 3487
Churchill 301 43 258
M3A3 Lee/Grant 1,386 Unknown 1,200 est.
Matilda II 1,084 252 832
M4A2 75mm Sherman 2,007 Unknown 1,750 est.
M4A2 76mm Sherman 2,095 Unknown 1,850 est.
There were at least 417 U.S. Medium Tanks And Halftracks Lost At Sea. A detailed
accounting is not available. Total tanks delivered came to approx. 11,000 and
8,000 other AFV's. Soviet total production numbered approx. 98,000 for all
AFV's. Just as a reference - the Germans started Barbarossa on June 22,
1941 with approx. 3,500 tanks and assault guns (including PzKw I's). All
quantity arrived numbers are an educated guess, due to incomplete
bookkeeping, shipping losses and contradictory sources.
A point often overlooked is the proportion of tanks that Allied Lend-Lease shipments represented. The British shipped some 14% of its own total tank production to Russia in 1941-1942, when it needed them most for its own forces in the Middle East who were also short of tanks. Most of all Canadian AFV production was also shipped to Russia arriving in the first year and a half of the War when they were sorely needed. These tanks supplemented Soviet production at a critical time. Here are some problems Russians noted concerning the tanks that were sent even though the British did make good use of them in Africa:
A-12 Matilda - Though it had a good reputation as a well-armored vehicle (especially the side skirts), it suffered from being slower than Russians preferred; having poor cross country speed in addition to having a small 2-pounder main gun. The Soviets only used them on a limited basis for this reason.
Mk III Valentine - A design by Vickers that was submitted to the War Office on Valentine's Day In 1938, from where this tank got its name. Mechanically it was one of the most reliable British vehicles ever manufactured, but again suffered from poor cross country speed and the same small 2-pounder main gun. So, here again the Soviets only put it to limited use.
M3 Lee\Grant Tanks - When the United States rearmed in 1940 they saw France overrun by the German panzers and felt they had to build a tank with thick armor and a powerful gun. The tank designers ran into an unforeseen problem, there were not currently any U.S. foundries capable of manufacturing large castings of turrets and hulls in large quantities. So the tank had to be improvised, having a 75mm gun mounted to one side of the body, and a small turret with a 37mm gun. The armor was riveted together due to the casting problem. Unfortunately it was found out if the tank hull was struck by a shell, even if it did not penetrate the armor, it would result in rivets popping off into the interior of the tank. This caused high crew casualties. Additionally the Grant was rather tall and thus an easy German target. The Soviets used it anyway, despite the depressing nickname "a grave for seven brothers". The U.S. eventually solved the casting problem and decided to produce a more improved tank known as the M4 Sherman.
Lend-Lease Motor Transport
The most important vehicles that the Allies supplied were trucks and jeeps. Soviet manufactured trucks were copies of 1930-era designs and did not have the cross-country abilities of the more modern vehicles provided by the Allies. The amounts shipped to Russia included; 197,825 - 1 1/2 ton trucks, 210,000 - 2 1/2 ton trucks, 12,000 jeeps and automobiles, 52,000 motorcycles, 4,000 ordinance and fuel hauling vehicles, 8,000 trailers, and 2 million miscellaneous tires.
The Soviets produced an estimated 281,500 trucks during the War, and made use of many captured vehicles. The Allies sent just over 400,000 trucks, these higher quality Lend-Lease trucks greatly facilitated Soviets in mounting offensives at a faster pace, that eventually got them to Berlin. Without them they undoubtedly would have had to manufacture trucks instead of AFV's and other equipment, causing the War in the East to be prolonged. For example: In Koniev's initial offensive in April 1945 to take Berlin, 15,000 of the 18,000 trucks in his Motor Transport Regiments moving ammunition and food around and to the front were Lend-Lease trucks.
Lend-Lease Aircraft And Fuel
The Soviets produced an estimated 101,000 combat aircraft during the War, supplementing their airforce with an estimated 15,000 following list of Lend-Lease aircraft:
Single-Engine Fighters Shipped Lost In Transit Arrived
P-39/P-400 Aircobra 4,719 Unknown 3,200 est.
P-40F Kittyhawk 4,017 Unknown 2,975 est.
P-47C Thunderbolt 195 0 195
P-63 King Cobra 2,456 67 2,389
British Hurricane 2,952 Unknown 2,250 est.
British Spitfire 1,331 Unknown 1,000 est.
Twin-Engine Aircraft
A-20 Havoc (Various Versions) 2,908 Unknown 2,600 est.
B-25 Mitchell 862 Unknown 750 est.
British H-P Hampden 23 0 23
British A-W 41 Albemarle 14 0 14
C-47 Dakota Transports 8 0 8
In addition to these aircraft shipments, the Soviets received some training when
the planes arrived, usually when pilots delivered them. All of the arrived
numbers are an educated guess, due to incomplete bookkeeping,
shipping losses and contradictory sources.
As mentioned earlier the Allies shipped a total of 476,000 tons of 100 octane aviation fuel that was also one of the more important items received. Production of this fuel was necessary to considerably enhance aircraft performance. It required sophisticated refining equipment and advanced techniques of production that the Soviets were short of.
Lend-Lease Military Equipment Misc.
5.5 Million Combat boots
23 million yards of army cloth for uniforms, etc.
Misc. rucksacks, bedding, blankets, tents and cots
Misc. saddles, harnesses and 93,000 tons of jute.
And the most valuable of item of all: gold braid to decorate their Soviet uniforms
Lend-Lease Communications, Rail and Naval Equipment
Over 2 million feet of waterproof telephone wire sent. This was a very important commodity that requires precise quality control standards. The Russian-made wire on the other hand, was substandard and had a reputation for always having a leak or short in it somewhere. The Lend-Lease cable was considerably more reliable. Since the Russians preferred using wire communications over wireless radios (so the Germans could not listen in on them) it was considered one of the more valuable items.
56,500 field telephones and 245,000 wireless radios for field and vehicle use.
1,000 locomotives and 250,000 tons of steel rails.
Miscellaneous Rail switching and signaling equipment.
520 Ships, tugs, barges and miscellaneous vessels that included 4 older Capital Ships, 33 Subchasers, 22 Minesweepers and 12 Gunboats.
1,111 - 20mm naval AA guns as well as several hundred torpedoes.
Lend-Lease Misc. Raw Materials, Tooling, Construction And Mfg. Equipment
1.2 million tons of steel in the form of slabs, sheets, tubing and bars (the Allies shipped them enough to make approximately 40,000 medium tanks, like the T-34).
Misc. Raw metals including 217,000 tons copper, 134,000 tons aluminum, 48,000 tons lead, 42,000 tons zinc, 29,000 tons tin, and 6,500 tons nickel.
Misc. chemicals, lubricants, paint, antifreeze, propane, acetylene, oxygen and 103,000 tons of rubber.
20,000 machine-tools including mills, lathes, grinders, drill bits, industrial diamonds, welding equipment a
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