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didnt read all of the postst, but when comparing gun-countries vs not-gun-countries, one shouldnt take japan as the non-gun-country ; i mean, samurai(wannabe)s and all tongue

till the end of time..

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read teh one about the swordfight!

hmm didn't know our murder rate was so low, only 16000

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/homtrnd.htm#contents

flatlining lately, Schneipel, so odds are if you eliminated guns they'd do the job with other weapons

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handgun for democrats tongue

http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/50396/

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are they?
from your link we could also say
"chance that school shootings decrease dramatically when u remove guns are pretty high"

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Sure if you remove axes then the incidence of axe murder drops

They just use something else

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maybe some will do.. still.. its something differ

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You're ignorant. Where do you live? I want to give a donation to your community's schools. You kids aren't learning math and it's hurting the world economy. As well as making me feel bad for you. I'd rather pay to educate your kids than listen to more of this ignorant, self-righteous garbage. It's one thing to be on opposite sides of philosophical differences, and quite another to be ignorant and cocky spewing a bunch of garbage rhetoric 10 year olds would be embarassed to hear.

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133 (edited by Schniepel 21-Apr-2009 08:56:42)

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if u dont wanna read it.. dont read it.. dont comment on it.. no one here cares anyways.

i am from where ur name comes from btw...

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Read what? Your ramblings "clearly if I say this is how it is, it is!"

You post how you feel about the safety of issues as if your ignorance counts for something. The facts don't care how you feel.

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there are no facts about how crimes would be in the US without guns.

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The "facts" back schniepel, USA has third world murder rates.

The difference between US murder rates and Civilised countries murder rates, is US gun murders.

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yikes


you better not be talking bad about the US, or they invade your ass

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Since the murder rates are basically flat over a decade, we have most probably hit the number of people who will kill anyhow

While guns have always been an american method of murder, there's train derailment, arson, bombing planes, tmapering with drugs. Biggest unsolved case in US is the Tylenol poisoning- random tmapering of medicine. Olympics were bombed. Oklahoma city was a bombing. Worst school massacre before columbine was a schoolhouse bombing. In 1934 a wackjob started a fire on the cruise ship Castle Morro that killed hundreds, he got caught after he murdered his landlords in the 1950s with a hammer. In the 1950s a guy dynamited an airliner and killed 30 people for insurance on one of the passengers. Most serial killings do not involve a gun. John Wayne Gacy, strangler. Jeffrey Dahmer, stabbing and bludgeoned. Ted Bundy, stabbimg and strangling. Running over with cars is a popular method because you have a good chance to BS it as an accident if you're ballsy enough.

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>>there are no facts about how crimes would be in the US without guns.<<

You are right. It would be unreasonable to suggest that the same thing would happen in the US that happens everywhere else.\

>>The "facts" back schniepel, USA has third world murder rates.<<

The "facts" do not show any evidence of guns being the cause. There are nations with more guns and lower murder rates than the US, suggesting the reasons are cultural.

>>The difference between US murder rates and Civilised countries murder rates, is US gun murders.<<

Obviously in a country with a higher availability of guns murders committed with them will be higher in a country with less availability, but considering the lack of an impact on murders and the increase in crime suffered by nations enacting gun control, you don't have a point.

You kids couldn't pass a basic statistics course, but you're experts who're gonna post and vote anyway! Hurray willful ignorance!

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140 (edited by Schniepel 22-Apr-2009 08:30:51)

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well there is exactlly 1 country with more guns then the US..
And that would be Yemen

now i found this

http://www.yobserver.com/news-varieties/10013289.html

since guns in yemen had been banned.. murder rate decreased.

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> murder rate decreased.

Its an obvious statistic...there are too many people just too
ignorant to see it.

Guns should be strictly controlled, but not banned altogether though.

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142 (edited by Justinian I 22-Apr-2009 08:37:15)

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The US murder rates are not high enough for me to care about changing the status quo. They may be higher than in Europe, but by and large we still have a life expectancy comparable to other Western countries. We value guns, and our security is not compromised enough for me to care about banning them.

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"They may be higher than in Europe, but by and large we still have a life expectancy comparable to other Western countries"

If u would have a murder rate that would drastically decrease the average life expectancy it would be super scary wouldnt it?
I doubt in that case u could be called civilized nation..

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Yes, clearly the sociopolitical conditions of Yemen are comparable to those of the USA. I'm sure we can make many parellels between the nations that will hold up under any kind of scrutiny (that is, for anyone with the remotest concern for the truth).

Where is your evidence that the murder rate in the USA would significantly decrease if firearms were outlawed? All you do is repeat that it's so obvious to you intellectual elite and call everyone who disagrees ignorant because you have nothing to base your position on but your feelings.

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i have no proove...
its just.. you said there are countries with more guns then the us.. i showed u that there is only one.. with a decreased murder rate since guns had been banned.

sure you can not compare yemen to the US...
as i said before.. its all theory what would happen in the US if guns be banned.. so i can not bring any evidence for it.

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and btw its funny.. you call other ignoratn in almost any of your posts. so i guess you count yourself to this interlectual elite...

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thats the way they talk schniepel, you cant blame them!!

if you dont agree, your either ignorant, a retard, a idiot or a communist. Take your pick!

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>>as i said before.. its all theory what would happen in the US if guns be banned.. so i can not bring any evidence for it.<<

No other nations have significant gun ownership but less murder rates? Yes, they do. You just can't find any that support your position.

>>and btw its funny.. you call other ignoratn in almost any of your posts. so i guess you count yourself to this interlectual elite...<<

If you're asking if I'm embarassed to respond to half of the kids on this forum: Yes, it is embarassing. I'm specific and clear. I respond to content. When I get 90% cry and 0% content response showing anything I said which you disagree with, I openly state that you're embarassing yourself by being dishonest, if not ignorant and/or just stupid.

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if it embaresses you.. why do you come here and insult people over and over again?
why bother talking to all the kids?

btw..

http://www.unil.ch/webdav/site/esc/shared/Crimiscope/Crimiscope016_017_2001_D.pdf

the text is german though since its from switzerland... that graphics are english... and kinda show that the ammount of homicide, specially against women rises when more weapons are around.

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ignorant commy retard sounds nice to me...